From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 17 15:56:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from stereophonic.noops.org (adsl-63-195-97-84.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.195.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 72CE337B400 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:56:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 97608 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Jan 2002 23:50:10 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Jan 2002 23:50:10 -0000 Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:50:10 -0800 (PST) From: Thomas Cannon To: Clark Mankin Cc: Subject: Re: BSD network hired guns? In-Reply-To: <000a01c19fac$ebd3c480$0301a8c0@clicknetwork.com> Message-ID: <20020117154518.X96679-100000@stereophonic.noops.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm not sure I followed you correctly. Are you saying that in order for your machine to get to the outside world it needs to go through a gateway on the other side of a router, and that you're trying to tell your machine that it's default gateway is on a subnet that it is not part of? And if you tell it to use the gateway of 0.0.0.0 (which is no gateway at all) then you can ping things on your LAN but not outside of it? It sounds like you're trying to work around a router that doesn't know how to route, or something, but I'm not sure. If you reproduce a little of what you have in your /etc/rc.conf file (like the defaultrouter="" line, and the ifconfig lines) it might help to understand. And again, to be clear, your nnetmask is 255.255.255.248, giving you a host range of 209.180.198.17-22 and the router is at .22, yes? thomas On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Clark Mankin wrote: > Hello, > > I've been using various Linux platforms for 5 years with excellent results. I have an oddly configured network because it's on a rented netblock inside another netblock. The resulting netmask being 255.248. > > BSD apparently has some difficulty with this (I'm not certain what the problem is, just guessing.) > > Under Linux, the OS asks all the right questions, has places to input all the required information, and even as a bright green newbie I brought up a fairly complicated network first try and it has run for 5 years in spite of various upgrades, changes in the underlying platform etc. > > FreeBSD networking refuses to run. I can't input the required information by manual means (following the instructions in Greg Lehey's book) and the /stand/sysinstall script does not collect enough information from the user to make the network fly. > > For example, whereas it's true my "default router", as you call it, is at IP 209.180.198.22 I can only get there on eth0 (xl0 - ep0 ??) via the gateway of 0.0.0.0 > and unfortunately BSD is completely unwilling to accept this information. It's as though BSD expects me to have a hard wired direct connection to the gateway device. That's not how I'm configured. I have an ethernet router connected to a switch that feeds the other machines on the network. \\ > > At any rate, I have exhausted the limits of my expertise (which is limited by my Linux experience of 5 years), and I'm now ready to hire somebody. > > Can you recommend anyone in the greater Seattle area? This individual will not be able to telnet in because I can't bring up a network to get him inside. If I could bring the network up I wouldn't need him. So he may have to drive to my site and do some local console keyboarding. > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 1/11/02 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message