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Thu, 12 Mar 2020 10:12:25 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 11:11:53 +0100 From: Michael Gmelin To: Alexander Leidinger Cc: Bob Willcox , Mark Martinec , , Subject: Re: New Xorg - different key-codes Message-ID: <20200312111153.687dd887@bsd64.grem.de> In-Reply-To: <170ce15cc60.27fa.fa4b1493b064008fe79f0f905b8e5741@Leidinger.net> References: <6897965B-8B8A-4B18-A4BB-BEC77D3D6DC7@grem.de> <20200311214930.GC5435@rancor.immure.com> <170ce15cc60.27fa.fa4b1493b064008fe79f0f905b8e5741@Leidinger.net> X-Face: $wrgCtfdVw_H9WAY?S&9+/F"!41z'L$uo*WzT8miX?kZ~W~Lr5W7v?j0Sde\mwB&/ypo^}> +a'4xMc^^KroE~+v^&^#[B">soBo1y6(TW6#UZiC]o>C6`ej+i Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEWJBwe5BQDl LASZU0/LTEWEfHbyj0Txi32+sKrp1Mv944X8/fm1rS+cAAAACXBIWXMAAAsTAAAL EwEAmpwYAAAAB3RJTUUH3wESCxwC7OBhbgAAACFpVFh0Q29tbWVudAAAAAAAQ3Jl YXRlZCB3aXRoIFRoZSBHSU1QbbCXAAAAAghJREFUOMu11DFvEzEUAGCfEhBVFzuq AKkLd0O6VrIQsLXVSZXoWE5N1K3DobBBA9fQpRWc8OkWouaIjedWKiyREOKs+3PY fvalCNjgLVHeF7/3bMtBzV8C/VsQ8tecEgCcDgrzjekwKZ7TwsJZd/ywEKwwP+ZM 8P3drTsAwWn2mpWuDDuYiK1bFs6De0KUUFw0tWxm+D4AIhuuvZqtyWYeO7jQ4Aea 7jUqI+ixhQoHex4WshEvSXdood7stlv4oSuFOC4tqGcr0NjEqXgV4mMJO38nld4+ xKNxRDon7khyKVqY7YR4d+Cg0OMrkWXZOM7YDkEfKiilCn1qYv4mighZiynuHHOA Wq9QJq+BIES7lMFUtcikMnkDGHUoncA+uHgrP0ctIEqfwLHzeSo+eUA66AqzwN6n 2ZHJhw6Qh/PoyC/QENyEyC/AyNjq74Bs+3UH0xYwzDUC4B97HgLocg1QLYgDDO1v f3UX9Y307Ew4AHh67YAFFsxEpkXwpXY3eIgMhAAE3R19L919nNnuD2wlPcDE3UeT L2ytEICQib9BXgS2fU8PrD82ToYO1OEmMSnYTjSqSv9wdC0tPYC+rQRQD9ESnldF CyqfmiYW+tlALt8gH2xrMdC/youbjzPXEun+/ReXsMCDyve3dZc09fn2Oas8oXGc Jj6/fOeK5UmSMPmf/jL+GD8BEj0k/Fn6IO4AAAAASUVORK5CYII= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS(1.50)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 10:12:36 -0000 On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 10:31:40 +0100 Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Hi, > > This command sets the keyboard layout. You are supposed to set the > keyboard layout which matches the physical layout of the hardware. > This hadn't changed, it's a fundamental part of X11 since I know it > (X11 6.5) and even before... > [snip] Exactly. I just personally prefer to use setxkbmap, as all my setups are single user (one unprivileged user per machine that runs X, no shared machines) and customization happens in $HOME that way. Makes it a bit easier to setup a new machine (no digging in Xorg configs) and reading ~/.xinitrc basically tells me all about my current config. Plus, setxkbmap makes it easy to experiment, as it's applies changes while X is running, even if one makes the those changes permanently in an xorg config file later. And the resulting command is just one line (in my case as short as "setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout de"), makes it easier to support people. Another useful application of the command is for debugging: "setxkbmap -query" will tell you what's currently configured (regardless how that configuration was done), e.g., On a machine running xorg 1.18: # setxkbmap -query rules: base model: pc105 layout: de On a machine running xorg 1.20: rules: evdev model: pc105 layout: de In both cases the same setxkbmap command was used in ~/.xinitrc to set model and layout. Rules were taken from Xorg's default config, which changed to evdev in 1.20. Cheers, Michael -- Michael Gmelin