From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 30 07:11:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A059221E for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:11:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A438FC0A for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:11:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (cs-tor.bu.edu [204.8.156.142]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C475A5AC1 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:11:08 +0400 (MSK) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:10:59 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Famp Server Message-ID: <20121030071059.GA10291@external.screwed.box> References: <1351488821.57168.YahooMailNeo@web162303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:11:19 -0000 Hello. 2012/10/29 16:28:11 -0400 Michael Powell => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : MP> Perhaps by way of example I can illustrate: I run Apache as FastCGI with the MP> event-mpm, mysql, memcached, and PHP in the FPM configuration. It is a MP> highly customized and tuned environment which is easily obtained utilizing MP> the inherent configurability of the FreeBSD ports system. jfmi: Which of them can not be found in a 'gentoo'? MP> When such a meta port comes into play, there are defaults chosen which begin MP> to reflect the same kind of restrictions as I outlined before in my reasons MP> for not migrating my chosen environment to Linux. You can configure separately each port the metaport consists of and then build that metaport. Those "defaults chosen from begin" do not depend on if the 'nested' port is being built as a part of a metaport build process or separately thus no restrictions observed. MP> I suggest, instead of MP> leaning on the meta port approach, that the true power of FreeBSD would be MP> more fully realized by learning to be a proper system admin. You will also What if being a proper sysadm means ability to deploy a package on thousands (tens of thaousands, etc.) of machines? In formal terms this means create a package and install on the every machine. This cannot be a several packages because this makes the whole task less quick and the solution less reliable. And the creation of such a package can be a more trivial task for sysadm than the such of a package installation or upgrade by itself. Such a metaport can be a person-scale/company-wide solution, not a public one so no harm for the general freebsd usage approaches/pphilosophy which is a kind of a public stuff. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627