From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 09:13:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFBA737B401; Sat, 31 May 2003 09:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic-mail.adaptec.com [208.236.45.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F9743F3F; Sat, 31 May 2003 09:13:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott_long@btc.adaptec.com) Received: from redfish.adaptec.com (redfish.adaptec.com [162.62.50.11]) by magic.adaptec.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4VG8ZZ14201; Sat, 31 May 2003 09:08:35 -0700 Received: from btc.adaptec.com (hollin.btc.adaptec.com [10.100.253.56]) by redfish.adaptec.com (8.8.8p2+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07887; Sat, 31 May 2003 09:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3ED8D49C.40804@btc.adaptec.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 10:13:16 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mirror-maintainer@mirror.averse.net References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: re@freebsd.org cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Coordinating and distributing the release X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 16:13:28 -0000 mirror-maintainer@mirror.averse.net wrote: > (mail was NOT cc'ed to hubs@ and re@ as the freebsd.org MX refuses to > accept mail when my IP has no PTR record) > > On Sat, 31 May 2003, Scott Long wrote: > > >>After 5.0 we discussed ways to coordinate the release so that iso images >>could fully propogate to the mirrors before before they were available >>to the public. However, I'm not sure if a decision was ever made. Is >>this still a reasonable goal? Can it be done using unix file >>permissions? If so, how do we propagate out the file permission change >>quickly? > > > Would this mean that secondary mirrors (those who don't have direct access > to one of the ftp-masters) won't be able to obtain the files too? > Can we just enable :archive 0770 on the files/directories and have them safely propogate out to all of the mirrors that way, while still leaving them invisible to normal visitors? I certainly do not want to exclude the secondary mirrors. > >>Another idea that came to mind in talking with others is investigating >>using BitTorrent to augment the distribution of iso images. For those >>not familiar, it's a distributed file sharing protocol that specializes >>in balancing loads between every node so that everyone who is >>downloading also contributes upload bandwidth to others. It seems to be >>catching on quite quickly with the linux iso people since it has a net >>effect of reducing bandwidth load on the primary mirrors. For those >>that are interested, go to http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/index.html > > > I'm open to running a btdownloader. > > From what I know about about BitTorrent, the person who I upload > to/download from is essentially randomly selected from all the people > using a particular tracker. This means that we wouldn't be localising > traffic to the region of each mirror - which may or may not be a goal. > > ftp.sg > > I'm not sure if localizing traffic is good or not. Like I said, its' popularity is defintely growing in the linux iso area. Scott