From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 23 21:46:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D12C106564A for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 21:46:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FF18FC15 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 21:46:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.0.63] (63.imp.bsdimp.com [10.0.0.63]) (authenticated bits=0) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p3NLgDMA005437 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 23 Apr 2011 15:42:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <4DB3142A.4000807@charter.net> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 15:42:12 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1E3F5B85-5A1A-4118-A9D8-932F46619C79@bsdimp.com> References: <4DB3142A.4000807@charter.net> To: Andrew Lankford X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (harmony.bsdimp.com [10.0.0.6]); Sat, 23 Apr 2011 15:42:15 -0600 (MDT) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: scd and mcd X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 21:46:28 -0000 On Apr 23, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Andrew Lankford wrote: > While we're talking about recent MFC's for SATA hardware (works for = me, but I still need the old ata drivers for my cdrom), is anyone out = there really still using the mcd (fbsd 1.0 vintage) and scd (2.0.5) = drivers? mcd and scd are ISA-only devices. ISA expansion bus only. ISA slots = disappeared off Mobos about 4 years ago entirely. PATA/IDE connectors = have been built into mobos for the past 15ish years. They were = important for the 386 (now not supported) and 486 machines. Since the = 486 machines in question maxed out at 32MB, and 8.x has trouble running = in 32MB on x86, I'm guessing there aren't too many 486 SX/DX machines = running 8.x. Therefore, I'd bet money that neither mcd nor scd have attached on any = machine running 8.x :) Warner