From owner-freebsd-arch Sat Dec 8 16:53:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655E737B417 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 16:53:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from caddis.yogotech.com (caddis.yogotech.com [206.127.123.130]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00943; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 17:52:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by caddis.yogotech.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB90qV077939; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 17:52:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15378.46543.229258.473566@caddis.yogotech.com> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 17:52:31 -0700 To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Jordan Hubbard , Garance A Drosihn , "Louis A. Mamakos" , Sheldon Hearn , Kirk McKusick , freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Proposed auto-sizing patch to sysinstall (was Re: Using a larger block size on large filesystems) In-Reply-To: <200112082211.fB8MBGm18685@apollo.backplane.com> References: <49294.1007846108@winston.freebsd.org> <200112082211.fB8MBGm18685@apollo.backplane.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Not only that, but blowing-out /var/tmp is relatively easy to do even > on a single user system. I've *NEVER* done, and the only thing that's blown out /var on any machine I've ever used is /var/log. That's about 8+ years of experience and 200-300 different boxes. > The last thing you want to see is a full > /var/tmp causing your mail system to throw up rocks because it's on > the same partition as /var. There is absolutely no sane reason to > combine /var and /var/tmp together. Obviously, I disagree. Therefore, I aree with Jordan and suggest that your 'bias' is based on your experience, which may differ from others. > The same thing goes for /home, though in /home's case the reasoning > is somewhat more ephermal. One single-user systems, I create /usr/home, and symlink /home to it. However, that's a personal preference I don't suggest is valid for everyone. One larger systems, I usually allocate an entire disk to /home, but again, that's a personal preference, and one that I don't think should be hard-coded as a good default. (Especially since sysinstall's main goal is to get a minimal system installed on the system.) I think many of the changes you've done are very good. I just disagree that the default partitioning scheme of '/','/var', and '/usr' isn't adequate for a 'base' configuration. As David and others have pointed out, they like monstrous '/' partitions which I shudder to think about when crashes occur. In short, I think we should stick with the current 3 partition base setup for 'automatic', and let others which *really* need more than automatic to create their own, or otherwise extend it to have different classes of 'auto' configurations as Jordan suggested. (Back to my hole.....) Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message