From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 22 13:59:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F99937B400 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tp.databus.com (p70-227.acedsl.com [66.114.70.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB4643E8A for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:59:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barney@databus.com) Received: from databus.com (localhost.databus.com [127.0.0.1]) by tp.databus.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6MKx6vG031999; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:59:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from barney@databus.com) Received: (from barney@localhost) by databus.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g6MKx6d1031998; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:59:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:59:06 -0400 From: Barney Wolff To: "Brian T. Schellenberger" , Jamie Bowden , Barney Wolff , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world considered harmful Message-ID: <20020722205906.GA31883@tp.databus.com> References: <200207220838.50792.bts@babbleon.org> <20020722203440.GA357@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020722203440.GA357@HAL9000.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG But there's nothing right with it, either. Is the demonstrated risk of people using it inappropriately really worth not having to type make buildworld && make installworld in the few cases where it's safe? I claim not. I run cvsup nohup'd and look at the output, but I'd would never trust that I'd notice a kernel interface change, and know when I could get away with not building the kernel. On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 01:34:40PM -0700, David Schultz wrote: > > In the case where you just CVSupped some major changes, you're > right. But if all you did is, say, install a security patch to > libc, there's nothing wrong with `make world'. -- Barney Wolff I never met a computer I didn't like. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message