From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 13 8:41:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FAD937B405 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 08:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sageone (ppp-208-191-234-180.dialup.crchtx.swbell.net [208.191.234.180]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA26957; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 10:37:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20011013103802.0192b7b0@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 10:38:02 -0500 To: sabine225@home.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: CVSup is overkill for me In-Reply-To: <726E8392-BFE0-11D5-9C64-0050E4050F42@home.com> References: <20011013.7475600@localhost.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ....actually, it's a matter of reader/research and mental perception I suppose. I found that cvsup worked "right out of the box" for me, but I struggle big time with scripts/programs like you describe. I understood the cvsup, plus I found the samples in the DOCs plus the "cheat sheets" website prepared me well for the cvsuping procedure which worked flawlessly. Admittedly, I looked very closely and followed threads here before my "first time" which was found to be very "gentle" with me. Also, I found that carefully following every single step for the "world" make/build/mergmastering stuff is an absolute need.... hmmm, can't wait for my next cvsupping fix.... think I'll do another one now just to feel good.... At 06:44 AM 10.13.2001 -0700, sabine225@home.com wrote: > >On Saturday, October 13, 2001, at 12:47 AM, Salvo Bartolotta wrote: > >> Sabine, > >Thanks for all the comforting words. My name is Sam, my wife's mail >account (sabine225@home.com) is the only one I have that the reverse >lookup works correctly (required by the freeBSD mailserver). > >> When I used Unix for the first time, I met with a number of similar >> difficulties (of the kind: "Ah! That's overwhelming!"). > >I've been using Linux/freeBSD for 3 years. I can format drives on remote >machines, write perl scripts that traverse infinitely deep directories >changing html code on files needing the specified changes from a web >interface, write shell scripts that synchronize servers across the net, >etc. blah...blah. It's just the documentation for cvsup, heck all UNIX >stuff, is always written by the wrong guy, the guy who's so close to the >project he can no longer think of what it looks like to someone just >getting started. That's OK, it's free and with the excellent support >form this list I couldn't be happier. I just get a little crazy >sometimes. I'm sure you've done it too, the documentation seems like a >circle of lies at times. > >> If one wants to learn a few idiom phrases (Windows), a GUI (as is >> Windows) is OK. If one wants to speak a language, ie to have much >> greater control of what one does, one needs to be able to *say* what >> one >> is doing. > >Windows, as are all Microsoft products, are strictly forbidden in our >company. We have all Mac workstations (some now on OS X) and all freeBSD >servers. Windows administrative GUI and documentation are purposely >poorly written to increase "instances" of paid product support to >Microsoft. There are flaws in capitalism. We zealously support UNIX and >GNU software as support to the computing community; it's the only way to >keep Microsoft from making our lives completely intolerable. I become >even crazier when I try to configure a Microsoft product. > >> P.S. Unix is way too complicated. :-)) > >Not if Steve Jobs gets his way. > >Sorry for the wasted bandwidth, I'll be OK in a day or two, actually >because of this list and the replies to my post I feel better already. > >Thanks again, >sam > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message