From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 13:33:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453A0106564A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:33:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0CF8FC12 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id r0pp1d00A0cQ2SLA61ZQqH; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:33:24 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.46.159]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id r1ZP1d0033S48mS8W1ZPVp; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:33:24 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 35B7C1E3035; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 05:33:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 05:33:22 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Dominic Fandrey Message-ID: <20100309133322.GA7362@icarus.home.lan> References: <4B9601D9.5030101@bsdforen.de> <20100309210949.F85436@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4B964A7C.6010709@bsdforen.de> <20100309133045.GA7232@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100309133045.GA7232@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Ian Smith Subject: Re: ntpd does not re-query servers, when a new interface appears X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:33:24 -0000 On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 05:30:45AM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 02:17:48PM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > > On 09/03/2010 11:27, Ian Smith wrote: > > > On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > > > > ntpd tracks interface updates, however it does not requery > > > > servers, when they occur. This was less than an hour ago, > > > > at my university, the notebook boots and is not connected > > > > to anything: > > > > > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:17 ntpd[1510]: logging to file /var/log/ntpd > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:17 ntpd[1510]: precision = 2.234 usec > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:17 ntpd[1510]: Listening on interface #0 wildcard, 0.0.0.0#123 Disabled > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:17 ntpd[1510]: Listening on interface #1 wildcard, ::#123 Disabled > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:17 ntpd[1510]: Listening on interface #2 bge0, 192.168.1.12#123 Enabled > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:17 ntpd[1510]: Listening on interface #3 lo0, fe80::1#123 Enabled > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:17 ntpd[1510]: Listening on interface #4 lo0, ::1#123 Enabled > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:17 ntpd[1510]: Listening on interface #5 lo0, 127.0.0.1#123 Enabled > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:17 ntpd[1510]: Listening on routing socket on fd #26 for interface updates > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:17 ntpd[1510]: kernel time sync status 2040 > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:17 ntpd[1510]: frequency initialized 3.155 PPM from /var/db/ntpd.drift > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:20 ntpd[1542]: host name not found: 0.de.pool.ntp.org > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:20 ntpd[1542]: couldn't resolve `0.de.pool.ntp.org', giving up on it > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:20 ntpd[1542]: host name not found: 1.de.pool.ntp.org > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:20 ntpd[1542]: couldn't resolve `1.de.pool.ntp.org', giving up on it > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:20 ntpd[1542]: host name not found: 2.de.pool.ntp.org > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:20 ntpd[1542]: couldn't resolve `2.de.pool.ntp.org', giving up on it > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:20 ntpd[1542]: host name not found: ntp1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:20 ntpd[1542]: couldn't resolve `ntp1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de', giving up on it > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:20 ntpd[1542]: host name not found: ntp1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:20 ntpd[1542]: couldn't resolve `ntp1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de', giving up on it > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:20 ntpd[1542]: host name not found: ntp3.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:20 ntpd[1542]: couldn't resolve `ntp3.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de', giving up on it > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:20 ntpd[1542]: host name not found: ntp4.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de > > > > 9 Mar 08:07:20 ntpd[1542]: couldn't resolve `ntp4.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de', giving up on it > > > > > > > > So ntpd has given up on all the servers listed in the ntp.conf file. > > > > > > Yes, but it looks more like name service that's not operating, ntpd > > > seems to be doing its best but can't resolve the hostnames? > > > > Why would I have named running on a notebook? This is a notebook, > > which is not connected to the internet. > > > > > > I then proceed to connect to the wireless network and proceed to log > > > > into two VPNs: > > > > > > > > 9 Mar 08:08:58 ntpd[1510]: Listening on interface #6 wlan0, 192.168.75.58#123 Enabled > > > > 9 Mar 08:09:00 ntpd[1510]: Listening on interface #7 tun0, 193.196.120.15#123 Enabled > > > > 9 Mar 08:09:04 ntpd[1510]: Listening on interface #8 tun1, 141.3.162.67#123 Enabled > > > > > > > > Over interface #8 some of the servers are actually available, but > > > > ntpq -p still states: > > > > No association ID's returned > > > > > > > > Only when I restart ntpd, it operates as expected: > > > > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter > > > > ============================================================================== > > > > zit-net2.uni-pa .STEP. 16 u - 512 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 > > > > alpha.rueckgr.a .STEP. 16 u - 512 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 > > > > ntp.goneco.de .STEP. 16 u - 512 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 > > > > +proxy4.rz.uni-k 129.13.64.17 2 u 30 128 271 2.937 2.530 1.891 > > > > +proxy2.rz.uni-k 129.13.64.17 2 u 58 128 375 3.593 -8.981 1.837 > > > > *proxy1.rz.uni-k 129.13.64.17 2 u 15 128 271 3.297 8.244 1.487 > > > > > > I've always had to restart named after losing / regaining an interface, > > > most noticeably after a suspend/resume (eg a low battery suspend), so I > > > run /etc/rc.d/named restart from rc.resume. This looks like a similar > > > issue perhaps, though I don't see why restarting only ntpd would fix it. > > > > As I said, named doesn't run at all. When the notebook gets an > > internet connection, ntpd recognizes this. It somehow doesn't > > occur to it, though, that it might be able to resolve the > > servers, now. > > I believe this is the problem. Note that you'll need to add an SSL > cert. exception for this site due to them using self-signed certs. > > https://support.ntp.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=987 Oh, and/or this one too, which mentions how to get the FORCE_DNSRETRY feature -- you get to rebuild ntpd. :-) https://support.ntp.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=1178 Doesn't sound like this issue is FreeBSD-specific, so you might want to chime in on those NTP bugs. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB |