From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Oct 23 17:52:13 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA14246 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 17:52:13 -0700 Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [144.206.136.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA14238 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 17:52:06 -0700 Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA07885 (5.65.kiae-2 ); Tue, 24 Oct 1995 04:47:53 +0400 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Tue, 24 Oct 95 04:47:52 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by ache.dialup.demos.ru (8.6.11/8.6.9) id DAA07550; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 03:46:31 +0300 To: "Justin T. Gibbs" Cc: ache@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, John Polstra References: <199510240031.RAA21409@aslan.cdrom.com> In-Reply-To: <199510240031.RAA21409@aslan.cdrom.com>; from "Justin T. Gibbs" at Mon, 23 Oct 1995 17:31:23 -0700 Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 03:46:31 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.40 FreeBSD] From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) X-Class: Fast Subject: Re: ld.so, LD_NOSTD_PATH, and suid/sgid programs Lines: 24 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1115 Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message <199510240031.RAA21409@aslan.cdrom.com> Justin T. Gibbs writes: >>>But anyone who sets LD_NOSTD_PATH will not be able to run *anything* >>>shared unless the have a sane LD_LIBRARY_PATH. This is not a >>>shell script only problem and I don't think the change is appropriate. >> >>Well, we have a lot static utils, i.e. whole /bin, /sbin and >>few from other places. They still works in this situation. >>Moreover, current shared shell works too, it is already in memory. >Bogus argument in my opinion. The people who are going to use >LD_NOSTD_PATH will know its effects. If you still want to argue >about this, fine, but I'd like to put this issue to a vote. Yes, it can be used by intruder for hackers purposes, if he examine previously what script does. Ok with me, lets put this issue to a vote. -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - http://dt.demos.su/~ache : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849