From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sat Sep 1 11:26:04 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C85CFEC2E9 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 11:26:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: from puchar.net (puchar.net [194.1.144.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "puchar.net", Issuer "puchar.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6195869CC; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 11:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by puchar.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w81BPpdc045229 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 1 Sep 2018 13:25:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from puchar-wojtek@puchar.net) Received: from localhost (puchar-wojtek@localhost) by puchar.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w81BPkPn045226; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 13:25:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from puchar-wojtek@puchar.net) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 13:25:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ian Lepore cc: Wojciech Puchar , Eugene Grosbein , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to use ftp(1) in batch mode In-Reply-To: <1535741187.33841.80.camel@freebsd.org> Message-ID: References: <5B87F083.6080804@grosbein.net> <99dde87e-1ddf-e1bc-a1a1-081718100f51@grosbein.net> <1535741187.33841.80.camel@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2018 11:26:04 -0000 >> why it is less secure as long as it is my account with  >> security.bsd.see_other_uids=0 set on server or even my own computer. >> > > My advice: Just ignore them. A certain type of person simply cannot > resist lecturing about security, even when they know absolutely nothing > about your application or context. > Seems like. It's like linux fanatics that don't use rsh/rlogin (it's often not even available in their distros) "because it's insecure". I regularny use rsh, rcp and rlogin on my LAN and over my VPN's because it's fast and simple. From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sat Sep 1 11:26:47 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5BFFEC342 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 11:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: from puchar.net (puchar.net [194.1.144.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "puchar.net", Issuer "puchar.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10EAC86A79; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 11:26:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by puchar.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w81BQZKn045309 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 1 Sep 2018 13:26:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from puchar-wojtek@puchar.net) Received: from localhost (puchar-wojtek@localhost) by puchar.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w81BQULC045306; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 13:26:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from puchar-wojtek@puchar.net) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 13:26:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Eugene Grosbein cc: Ian Lepore , Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to use ftp(1) in batch mode In-Reply-To: <0f06f90d-957e-4f05-35d6-4bca868306b1@grosbein.net> Message-ID: References: <5B87F083.6080804@grosbein.net> <99dde87e-1ddf-e1bc-a1a1-081718100f51@grosbein.net> <1535741187.33841.80.camel@freebsd.org> <099312d3-cda1-b8a6-b97d-b6e02d46e50e@grosbein.net> <1535743358.33841.81.camel@freebsd.org> <0f06f90d-957e-4f05-35d6-4bca868306b1@grosbein.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2018 11:26:47 -0000 >>> That does not make a habit to include a password into URLs a good >>> habit. >> >> LOL, thank you for making my point most eloquently. Y'all just REALLY >> can't resist lecturing, can you? > > You are saying "lecturing" like that's something wrong with free lecture :-) > yes - if nobody ask for it.