From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 27 20:09:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970AB19A for ; Mon, 27 May 2013 20:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-we0-x22f.google.com (mail-we0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22f]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3079C9B6 for ; Mon, 27 May 2013 20:09:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f175.google.com with SMTP id p60so4785744wes.34 for ; Mon, 27 May 2013 13:09:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=d9wOVuQW4FeTge87dBnAjb+SS69TINjQlgaaOLwTp8s=; b=vmxASksXRQdy+25g/mYG/0aSVXRgMBMJimIr6I19Wn6JjEt02i8Q8Azv4ljDmKT5vJ P0zPLKhr35bqUZ4bKJNh6kYOjr+RZ91b/BAEwqzlvTZ3AdfGf9Ex9Uzf4r9nomH6UpVv GEh/ZB3AO5mm3uWetejWIvLyHs7BR9xyWBj7uu9gXJjRw/SjO/gyfXUZpiiMTvyFbozV Zus38CSesGO5FZ7O0Y10vAzUyvF2g9JKfnTPCMpqYgc8VRTCtvFgtfb/NGAF0eEStLZv WXVoJCRwA02+I69FESmVPZ0E6/gGIEK8OOgQ698SykAGkeUTly/W3PClbYYN+fLLIydn ct7Q== X-Received: by 10.180.185.179 with SMTP id fd19mr9408947wic.1.1369685366413; Mon, 27 May 2013 13:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fp16sm19832143wic.6.2013.05.27.13.09.25 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 27 May 2013 13:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 21:09:24 +0100 From: RW To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The vim port needs a refresh Message-ID: <20130527210924.36432f32@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <51A3A813.1060908@marino.st> References: <20130524212318.B967FE6739@smtp.hushmail.com> <20130527140609.3d3b9d23@gumby.homeunix.com> <444ndofstn.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20130527153440.020ab20e@gumby.homeunix.com> <51A3798C.9000004@marino.st> <20130527173633.0e196a08@gumby.homeunix.com> <51A38D87.8070102@marino.st> <20130527183620.5ff9d8b0@gumby.homeunix.com> <51A3A813.1060908@marino.st> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 20:09:28 -0000 On Mon, 27 May 2013 20:38:11 +0200 John Marino wrote: > >> It's obviously true since multiple users are seeing it. (the whole > >> 1080 movie analogy, remember?) > > > > It not obviously true that you aren't all either making this problem > > with your make.conf settings or referring to a problem that existed > > last year. > > It was THIS year and it wasn't that long ago. January in the worst > case. But now you're explicitly telling multiple users that they > didn't in fact experience this? No, that's something you just made up. It is however vague and anecdotal. We have only one data point that we know is from this year and not self-inflicted, even if the others are, for all we know it could still be fast most of the time. Some monitoring would be useful.