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Date:      Thu, 24 Jul 1997 12:12:39 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Annelise Anderson <andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu>
To:        Brian <brian_thurston@rocketship.com>
Cc:        freebsd-doc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ASCII?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.970724115637.6742A-100000@andrsn.stanford.edu>
In-Reply-To: <199707240916.CAA29074@vector.intergate.bc.ca>

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Brian, with regard to your offer to translate the FAQ and the handbook
into Microsoft Word 7 format, I think it's been done (although not
made generally available).  Also, matters of this kind are handled
by John Fieber, who is in charge of the FreeBSD documentation
project; thus my cc: to freebsd-doc. 

The plain text version of these documents includes some backspace
characters that provide emphasis.  The backspace characters are
ascii 008.  

They can be removed from the file in Microsoft Word 7 with find and
replace.  The find string is ?^0008 and the replace string should be
blank.  The ? is a wild card representing any single character, and
therefore the "use wildcards" box needs to be checked when doing
this and the ? selected from the special character menu.

The backspaces and associated double characters can also be replaced
in WordPerfect 6.0 for DOS with a search and replace routine.  Here
again the ? is selected from the menu; then enter Alt-008 to get
the backspace.  It should show up in the search string as the same
symbol the displays in the file.  Again, the replacement string should
be blank.

I agree that the FAQ and handbook should be made available in a form
useful on DOS/Windows machines, especially when the system does not
include a postscript printer.  I don't know how Microsoft Word 7
would handle the postscript version of the FAQ and handbook.

	Annelise  

On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, Brian wrote:

[....]

> I still live in DOS/W95/NT4 world and do all of my formatting and printing
> in Windows 95 or NT4. The quality of the editors is outstanding as is the
> printed text (without the expense of a PS printer).
> 
> The people most interested in any manual or FAQ are those who wish to read
> about a subject before actually installing it onto their hardware. They do
> not have 'more' or 'less' or 'printer' because they do not have FreeBSD
> installed yet..
> 
> The largest market is DOS/Windows people who are looking for less-expensive
> or more robust alternatives to Microsoft products. I have many customers who
> wish to have the power and efficiency of an NT4 or Unix server without
> having to spend the $1000's required for the license fee's. Linux and
> FreeBSD may be the answer.
> 
> I would be more than happy to translate your manual and FAQ into a format
> universally readable in the DOS/Windows world but I require a real 'ascii'
> file, as defined by "American Standard Code for Information Interchange".
> 
> I could produce these files in Word for Windows v7.0 format. Microsoft
> provides a free viewer that allows 'page size' formating and printing. This
> would be an absolute boon to the other DOS-oids out there who wish to move
> up for their heavy duty processing duties.
> 
> Let me know how you feel about my proposal and offer?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Brian.
> 
> ----Original Message-----
> From: Annelise Anderson <andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu>
> To: Sergei S. Laskavy <laskavy@cs.msu.su>
> Cc: brian_thurston@rocketship.com <brian_thurston@rocketship.com>;
> freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Date: Wednesday, July 23, 1997 1:58 PM
> Subject: Re: ASCII?
> 
> 
> >On Wed, 23 Jul 1997, Sergei S. Laskavy wrote:
> 
> >> >>>>> "Brian" == Brian  <briand@intergate.bc.ca> writes:
> >>
> >>     Brian> Hi: I have succeeded in downloading both the FreeBSD
> >>     Brian> Handbook and FAQ is ascii format. My question is exactly
> >>     Brian> what flavour of ascii are we talking about?
> >>
> >> You can read this wich "more" (standard pager) or "less" (GNU pager,
> >> from packages/ports) and print it with printer.
> >>
> >>     Brian> The downloaded versions I have are loaded with obscure
> >>     Brian> formatting information that refusese to be decoded by the
> >>     Brian> many editors I have.
> >>
> >> If you want to delete this, I can post you one-line sed script :)
> >
> >Is this on FreeBSD, or did you download to a dos/Windows machine?
> >In FreeBSD you can do
> >
> >cat FAQ.ascii | col -b > FAQ.txt
> >
> >col -b removes the ^H sequences.
> >
> > Annelise
> >>
> >>     Brian> example:
> >>
> >>     Brian> Welcome to FreeBSD!  This handbook covers the installation
> >>     Brian> and day to day use of FFrreeeeBBSSDD
> >>     Brian> RReelleeaassee 22..22..22. This
> >>     Brian> manual is a wwoorrkk iinn
> >>     Brian> pprrooggrreessss and is the work of many
> >>     Brian> individuals.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 




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