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Grimes" Cc: "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2021 17:13:45 -0600 In-Reply-To: <202106082211.158MBrbe010419@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> References: <202106082211.158MBrbe010419@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ASCII" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4G05dn6j4Nz3Qts X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Tue, 2021-06-08 at 15:11 -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 09:41:34 +0000 > > Mark Linimon wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 01:58:01PM -0600, Ian Lepore wrote: > > > > Sometimes it's a real interesting exercise to figure out where > > > > a > > > > file on your runtime system comes from in the source world. > > There is a command for that which does or use to do a pretty > decent job of it called whereis(1). > revolution > whereis ntp.conf ntp.conf: revolution > whereis netif netif: revolution > whereis services services: So how does that help me locate the origin of these files in the source tree? -- Ian > > > > > > A tangential problem I trip over is "what is on this SD card?" > > > > > > It generally takes me 5-10 minutes to remember: > > > > > > strings //boot/kernel/kernel | tail > > > > > > AFIAK it's the only way to be sure; nothing in //* seems > > > to have that data. > > > > > > (Yes, in theory they all live in their own little box each of > > > which is labeled but things happen ...) > > > > > > > I use locate for this kind of search, e.g. > > > > locate netoptions > > /etc/rc.d/netoptions > > /usr/src/libexec/rc/rc.d/netoptions > > > > -- > > Gary Jennejohn > > > > > >