From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 4 21:44:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4AA9C8B for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 21:44:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ia0-f182.google.com (mail-ia0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BAC98FC17 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 21:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f182.google.com with SMTP id x2so4125023iad.13 for ; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 13:44:02 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:x-priority :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state; bh=S9F3UBmzqehjUpQcq0PY2gxoGwQBxR6Om2Px/qckenk=; b=f1jngQof3aTtxS05S50EqrIrgS5V7g0BalGmy9zJlbwh38DZA62E/2eKTDGM/QZ+Vt 7gL6+U0TeS994/yf4Z4k9s9huTstViw6SHTOQgzeziOUF7oAFXRl1VhUUF/9+1dnzWw9 XeSaBeLifaFhdbvWcRlFN8Gzy9MIZtwe1dsoE9OIe8GaZ3m8Mb49kmjUkUDsCU6LBER4 YbukxhYwMyXq5izKZ5DiLF89931oJDkNmeTLhX4xAggauxDHCgJNIiHNOPKJ5GjvMfFL dEXKgnyAWGtAwapa9z/9OZWGpMWUTxfqFidnjcHYzDvpG7AKut4Fxg/wrOdpqABzZWmK wMHw== Received: by 10.50.203.74 with SMTP id ko10mr4237142igc.26.1354657442627; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 13:44:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from monkey-bot.int.fusionio.com ([209.117.142.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id em3sm10852033igc.7.2012.12.04.13.44.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 04 Dec 2012 13:44:01 -0800 (PST) Sender: Warner Losh Subject: Re: FreeBSD as read-only firmware Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: Warner Losh X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <534994431.20121104025602@serebryakov.spb.ru> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 14:43:54 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <80F27F05-232F-4014-98C5-31AC5FCF2188@bsdimp.com> References: <1167404891.20121103170049@serebryakov.spb.ru> <534994431.20121104025602@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: lev@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkiQT4ocfEcikZZHKFX8HxFBGCQsakmnoFFqyeoTZSqcqsWKrMLlTtlXr+aaF87L5dCcoUs Cc: Garrett Cooper , Alexander Yerenkow , freebsd-current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:44:03 -0000 [ replying to an old thread, sorry ] On Nov 3, 2012, at 4:56 PM, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello, Alexander. > You wrote 4 =D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=8F=D0=B1=D1=80=D1=8F 2012 =D0=B3., = 2:12:03: >=20 > AY> Quick glance to nanobsd give me impression that: > AY> 1) nanobsd is MBR based, so : > AY> 2) nanobsd is disk-name-change sensitive. > Here are patches to support GPT I'd love to see those... The mailing list must have eaten the original = ones. > AY> GPT way is better - I'm using r${REV} as label, and root can be = mounted no > AY> matter how many other "firmware's" present, or how disks are = ordered. >=20 > AY> BTW, due to bug 173309 I had to rebuild and update my server, = which took > AY> only few minutes for reboot. >=20 > AY> Well, nanobsd is great thing, I'll look into it a bit more, but = it's goal > AY> to have minified FreeBSD, while I need read-only one. > No. Its goal is to have RO and ACID-upgradable system (with two code > slices for this). Yes. NanoBSD's way isn't the best, and if there's better ways for it to = do its thing, then I'm all for updating it to cope better. I have a bit = of a backlog of NanoBSD patches to get to, which is why this caught my = eye, and since 9.1 will soon be a totally done deal, what better time to = hack on NanoBSD and merge... Warner