From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Apr 28 1:58:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from excalibur.oceanis.net (ns.dotcom.fr [195.154.74.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2380215644 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 01:58:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pixel@excalibur.oceanis.net) Received: (from pixel@localhost) by excalibur.oceanis.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA11087; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:58:03 GMT From: Emmanuel DELOGET Message-Id: <199904280858.IAA11087@excalibur.oceanis.net> Subject: Re: Adding desktop support In-Reply-To: <199904280827.SAA27054@cimlogic.com.au> from John Birrell at "Apr 28, 1999 6:27:53 pm" To: jb@cimlogic.com.au (John Birrell) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:58:03 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Hackers Mail List) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As the well known John Birrell said... ->Andrew Reilly wrote: ->> On Wed, Apr 28, 1999 at 05:59:11PM +1000, John Birrell wrote: ->> > Just disk space = about 46 bytes plus the size of the XPM file. ->> ->> Is this how GNOME works? I'm pretty sure that it's not how KDE ->> or Motif works. Are you proposing the building of _another_ desktop ->> infrastructure? -> ->I'm not talking about the desktop itself, just the icon information ->that goes with an executable. How the particular desktop formats the ->icon is up to the desktop applications. -> ->> Besides, none of the executables in the standard FreeBSD ->> distribution do anything without arguments anyway, so you're ->> really only talking about X applications, aren't you? Even on ->> Windows, the command-line tools don't get their own icon. -> ->Providing arguments for an executable is a separate issue to browsing ->a file system. I don't want to cloud the current subject by talking ->about how a desktop application might allow command-line tools to ->be executed. Since the graphic interface and the system are separated, I do not understand the *real* value of this (putting an icon in the exe). A lot of window manager are able to create a exe/pixmap array to handle these particular associations. I think it would be better to hack such window manager (this would let the users choose their icons if they want, and that should be (I think) a better solution. You may work with the (example) Window Maker people and provide a ${KnownCommercialOsName} compatibility mode (... not sure they will accept... Those linux folks are rather... anti-${KnownCommercialOsName} :) -> ->-- ->John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ ->CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 -> -- __________________________________________________________________________ Emmanuel DELOGET [pixel] pixel@{dotcom.fr,epita.fr} ---- DotCom SA http://www.epita.fr/~pixel | http://www.dotcom.fr/~pixel "On the last day, God created Linux. And Microsoft won its antitrust case" -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message