From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 06:27:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED08416A4CE; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 06:27:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DE943D1F; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 06:27:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i8E6RcqP094000; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 08:27:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: "M. Warner Losh" From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:07:12 MDT." <20040914.000712.57271340.imp@bsdimp.com> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 08:27:37 +0200 Message-ID: <93999.1095143257@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk cc: seanc@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src UPDATING src/etc/defaults rc.conf src/etc/rc.d Makefile ntpd rpcbind X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 06:27:51 -0000 In message <20040914.000712.57271340.imp@bsdimp.com>, "M. Warner Losh" writes: >In message: <200409140301.i8E31cvR099301@repoman.freebsd.org> > Sean Chittenden writes: >: ntpdate's use has been depreciated by the ntpd >: authors for quite some time so this change shouldn't be unexpected. > >Except that ntpdate is still useful, despite their views to the >contrary. I really really really do not like this change. We should probably import the SNTP daemon which OpenBSD has written and use that for lightweight use. I talked to Henning about it at SUCON'04 and what I heard made sense for the lightweight segment. Poul-Henning (the _real_ NTP wizard in these parts :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.