From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 03:52:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDDDAE29E9 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 084991132 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:52:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-102.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA2543CE47; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:46:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u2U3kcKl002150; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:46:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:46:38 +0200 From: Polytropon To: tech-lists Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please already - forms acces restore normalcy for new people - broken Message-Id: <20160330054638.4c6c84e8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <56FA7BF8.6040303@zyxst.net> References: <56F9E01C.1030307@cox.net> <56FA7BF8.6040303@zyxst.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:52:43 -0000 On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:58:32 +0100, tech-lists wrote: > On 29/03/2016 02:53, anonymous wrote: > > "The connection was interrupted" > > Though it doesn't answer your question, TBH I'm not sure why the forums > exist when we have mailing lists and publicly accessible frontends for > browsing those lists. There are several groups of users who do not have access to e-mail based services (for example due to "corporate policy" or stupid firewall settings), so the web forums are considered especially appealing to novice users, as web access is often less complicated than accessing one's own e-mail from a "3rd place" (1st is from home, 2nd is on smartphone with a quite terrible UX, 3rd is work). You can also think of the fact that many users cannot imagine the availability and the operations of a mailing list... ;-) > A decades worth of compressed email from multiple > mailing lists will fit onto a modern usb stick and that's searchable > with any text search tool you like. Even via web, if local access to storage and standard tools is prohibited (see "corporate policy" mentioned above). > I guess I'm not a fan of the same kind of information but not exactly > the same information in different places. That's why certain projects have abandoned information and documentation altogether and left it to the users to scatter useful bits of wisdom across wikis, user pages, arbitrary web forums and personal homepages on the web. :-) > Just means more places to > search, some which might be unavailable at the time, so missing > information at that time. Yes, that actually sounds a bit problematic: A user asks the list for help, is shown a web forum URI he cannot reach (for whatever reason), and the mailing list archive indirectly keeps the problem as "unsolved" (as the list itself does not contain the solution). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...