From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 11 12:40:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8F71065670 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:40:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25348FC13 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ur.dons.net.au (ppp203-122-198-229.lns6.adl6.internode.on.net [203.122.198.229]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p1BCe0MX077675 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:10:01 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Daniel O'Connor" In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:09:59 +1030 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Mark Powell X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-Spam-Score: 0.163 () BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removing all ZFS support from boot process X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:40:04 -0000 On 11/02/2011, at 21:03, Mark Powell wrote: >> Can you take a picture of where it hangs? (you will have to host it = somewhere though, as the list will reject non text attachments). >=20 > Here you go: >=20 > http://galatea.salford.ac.uk/aix502/11022011448.jpg > http://galatea.salford.ac.uk/aix502/11022011449.jpg >=20 > The spinning char can seemingly be in any position when it crashes. = It took 5 attempts that time to get to the beastie menu. OK.. unfortunately not really much help except confirming that it is in = the BIOS/loader somewhere.. >> Is there an update for the BIOS? Does this happen on other hardware? >=20 > I suspected BIOS, that's why I was going to get a new motherboard. = I've always had problems getting gptzfsboot working on this hardware and = there are no more BIOS updates now. That's why I have ufs root, as it = only worked intermitantly. > Then I wondered what the hell was going on in the loader that took = >60s and seemingly touched every drive. I assumed it was FBSD that was = tasting all the drives. I believe the loader does look at the drives the BIOS presents to it, = certainly at the very least it tries to find something to boot off :) However, even if it is looking on every disk for partitions it should = only take a second or so (unless one of the drives is broken I suppose). I have seen BIOSen not boot reliably when external RAID cards are = present.. Generally their quality is quite variable :( -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C