From owner-freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 22 18:51:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCC61065692 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E60F8FC19 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8056 invoked by uid 399); 22 Sep 2009 18:51:48 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO foreign.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 22 Sep 2009 18:51:48 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <4AB91CBE.5030303@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:51:42 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090822) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin References: <20090917183525.O73400@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4AB21295.5080103@FreeBSD.org> <200909221343.24541.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200909221343.24541.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Oliver Fromme , freebsd-rc@freebsd.org, Ian Smith , Cezary Morga Subject: Re: 8.0 rc.d scripts less verbose? X-BeenThere: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion related to /etc/rc.d design and implementation." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:51:55 -0000 John Baldwin wrote: > On Thursday 17 September 2009 6:42:29 am Doug Barton wrote: >>> Also, I agree with Oliver; YES should probably be the default >>> (POLA) so folks annoyed by 'too much information' in console.log >>> can disable it. >> This late in the release cycle I'm comfortable adding a knob, but I'm >> not comfortable toggling the default. If there is consensus on the >> freebsd-rc list to make the default "yes" then I will go with that >> consensus. > > I actually vote for getting this into 8.0 and turning the messages back on to > undo the current POLA violation in 8.0. The biggest thing I think is just > restoring the functionality as the messages are handy when debugging a > startup issue. I made the change in HEAD 5 days ago with the default to off, I can easily switch that to on if that is the consensus. I also sent a message to re@ around the same time but haven't heard back from them. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection