From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 22 06:55:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA29280 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 06:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29274 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 06:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with UUCP id PAA29470; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 15:30:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id HAA17101; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 07:37:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19970722073711.20412@gtn.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 07:37:11 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: Nate Williams Cc: Warner Losh , Terry Lambert , sthaug@nethelp.no, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail complains about being unable to write his pid file References: <199707212106.OAA11898@phaeton.artisoft.com> <199707212214.QAA02162@rocky.mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 In-Reply-To: <199707212214.QAA02162@rocky.mt.sri.com>; from Nate Williams on Mon, Jul 21, 1997 at 04:14:15PM -0600 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Jul 21, 1997 at 04:14:15PM -0600, Nate Williams wrote: > Warner Losh writes: > > In message <199707212106.OAA11898@phaeton.artisoft.com> Terry Lambert writes: > > : Can you please explain how root ownership makes something more secure? > > > > > > Files owned by root are harder to change via NFS.... > > Ahh, you said the dirty word, NFS. NFS stands for 'No Freaking > Security', so if you're using NFS, you've already given up any chance of > security. Nate, might be the case ... but can you give me reason, why making things even worse, if people have to use NFS ... Or are you arguing, there is no reason to make it any better secure, by changing file permissions, because you think it's insecure(tm) ?! ;-)) -- Andreas Klemm | klemm.gtn.com - powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/benches.html