From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 13 10:36: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E235137B40D for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 10:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 68669 invoked by uid 100); 13 Oct 2001 17:31:56 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15304.31372.619873.273941@guru.mired.org> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 12:31:56 -0500 To: sabine225@home.com, "Philip Paeps" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSup is overkill for me In-Reply-To: <30879319@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG sabine225@home.com types: > On Friday, October 12, 2001, at 05:54 PM, Philip Paeps wrote: > > It's not *that* difficult, is it? > It's horrendous. So is installing Windows. > I don't want CURRENT I want STABLE, STABLE sounds better. But all the > docs say no problem just say > tag=something_from_a_list_somewhere_that_no_one_seems_to_tell_you_where_it_is If you want STABLE because it "sounds better", you don't want stable. > Tell me is it, "RELENG_4" ? You got that right, that's STABLE. So the docs aren't quite so bad. However, based on what you said earlier - about wanting to just keep up security, you want the new, and poorly documented, RELENG_4_4. > AND docs say if you make any kind of a typo in this > tag=make_a_wild_guess it will delete all the files that don't match your > system. Nice. It'll just delete the source files, and won't change the current the functioning of your system in any way at all. Not being able to build new ports is the worst possible outcome. > YOU tell me this wasn't written by mutants: No, it was written by people who know this by heart, and forget exactly how stupid rocks are. I've found that they are very good about accept rewrites that clarify things. Any contributions you want to make would most certainly be appreciated. > My Mac OS X politely says every Sunday afternoon, "We have an update of > xxx.app, would you like to install it now?" I say, "Yes, thank you." If you're happy with Mac OS X, why are you installing FreeBSD? The example from Philip Paeps is right, but I think you'd be happier with one change: > *default host=cvsup2.de.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs > *default tag=RELENG_4 You want to use RELENG_4_4 here, not RELENG_4. RELENG_4 gets new features; RELENG_4_4 gets security fixes. New features make things more likely to break. > *default delete use-rel-suffix > *default compress > > src-all > ports-all tag=. You should also subscribe to the freebsd security list, as that will tell you when a security problem has been fixed so you can update things. You may want to avoid having to compile the world yourself. They are experimenting with binary updates, and details using those are found in the announcements on the security mail list. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message