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Date:      Mon, 4 Sep 2000 22:05:30 +0200 (CEST)
From:      =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?= <groudier@club-internet.fr>
To:        David Bushong <david@bushong.net>
Cc:        "Brandon D. Valentine" <bandix@looksharp.net>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: AIC7892 / Adaptec 29160
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.10.10009042125010.390-100000@linux.local>
In-Reply-To: <20000903153208.V19901@bushong.net>

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On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, David Bushong wrote:

> I had the exact same problem with the exact same motherboard.  I finally=
=20
> gave up at stuck a Tekram DC-390U3 in the box and it's worked like a char=
m.
> Obviously, this is not the answer you wanted (I was on a deadline).  Also=
,
> sadly, I didn't realize that there are two different shapes of 64-bit PCI
> slots and the 370DL3 only has one shape and the Tekram is the other, so I
> had to use it as a 32-bit card..  You can find my posts and pondering abo=
ut
> possible explanations with a search on either freebsd-scsi or freebsd-sta=
ble..
> don't remember which.

There are actually 3 different PCI card edge connectors types for each BUS
width:

1) 5V    (only)
2) 3.3V  (only)
3) universal (supports either 5V or 3.3V depending on PCI connector type=20
              on motherboard)

The Supermicro 370DL3/DLE motherboards have two 3.3V 64 bit PCI
connectors, but the Tekram DC-390/U3x controllers seem to use a 5V
connector. This doesn't fit.

This is not due to the SYM53C1010 chip that supports both 3.3V and 5V and
thus allows all the 3 types of PCI card connectors (5V, 3.3V and
universal).

The SYM53C1010-based boards from Symbios/LSI use universal PCI connectors,
but they are probably more expensive than Tekram ones.

- SYM22915 -> 2 Ultra3 (LVD) SCSI buses
- SYM21940 -> 1 Ultra3 (LVD) SCSI bus + 1 UltraWide SCSI bus

Thanks to their universal PCI connectors these ones works with both 5V and
3.3V 64 bit PCI connectors on motherboard.
 =20
  G=E9rard.

PS1: In my opinion, Tekram choice for the DC-390 U3 PCI board connector
     couldn't be worse, based on technical considerations.

> --David Bushong
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> On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 06:09:04PM -0400, Brandon D. Valentine wrote:
> > I've been having a devil of a time installing 4.1-RELEASE on a machine
> > with a Supermicro 370DL3.  The machine has a built in AIC7892 Ultra160
> > SCSI controller.  I've tried LVD, UW, and narrow drives on all three
> > connectors along with different cables and different drives.  No
> > combination will be successful.  The install always picks a random poin=
t
> > during the install of the bin dist to hang.  Sometimes if I wait around
> > long enough I will get a panic with SCB errors.  To make sure the
> > problem wasn't the SCSI controller I stuck an Adaptec 29160 in one of
> > the 64-bit PCI slots and hooked the drive to that, turning the onboard
> > SCSI controller off in the BIOS.  I still receive the same behavior fro=
m
> > sysinstall.  This leads me to believe it is an issue related to 29160
> > support in 4.1-RELEASE.  I don't have any Ultra160 capable drives but
> > I've tried LVD 80, UW 40, and UN 20 drives on the appropriate
> > connectors.  Does anybody. anywhere have any advice on how to get
> > FreeBSD installed on this machine and then how to make sure it's not
> > going to crash in the future?  My problem appears very similiar to this
> > one found in the archives but not followed up on:
> > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D1702308+1705755+/usr/loca=
l/www/db/text/2000/freebsd-questions/20000319.freebsd-questions
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> > Brandon D. Valentine
> > --=20
> > bandix at looksharp.net  |  bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu
> > "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying
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