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Date:      Wed, 29 Jan 1997 21:20:22 -0800
From:      CBTravenss <cbt@mcia.com>
To:        ben@narcissus.ml.org
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   DTP
Message-ID:  <32F02F96.18D1@mcia.com>

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Snob Art Genre <ben@narcissus.ml.org> wrote:
><snip>
> We, the volunteer readers of freebsd-questions, got your message...
>
> I have no idea who owlsnest.com is, but if they are spammers then I wish 
> them nothing good.
> 
> I gather from your mail header that you're still using 16-bit Windows.  
> No wonder you're cranky, I would be too if my computer were always 
> crashing.

Your comments, while interesting, are, I believe, misguided and not
constructive.  If I'm the only individual who thinks the Owl's
Eye Productions maintainers are misleading the public and
using FreeBSD to help them do that, then it would be somewhat
surprising and unfortunate, but I'll likely be able to live with that.

The facts are as follows:
An organization called Owl's Eye Productions, Inc. maintains
a one-page Web site at http://www.owlsnest.com on which
three items are presented.
The name of the organization,
a sham (i.e. non-existent) email address mailto link, 
webmaster@owlsnest.com" and
a bright graphic in the center of the page promoting and
linking to FreeBSD.  No other links or contact information
is offered.  Owls' Eye Productions has sent untold numbers 
of unsolicited emails offering a URL placement service and
has crossed far over the line, in my view, by stating that by
replying to the email (return address: owlseye@owlsnest.com)
the respondant is authorizing Owl's Eye Productions to begin
the placement service and charge a fee.

It's not standard "spam".

I thought it might be of value for individuals who have an interest
in FreeBSD to know that their interests are being associated
with the less than ethical practices of Owl's Eye Productions
and hoped that they might welcome having the opportunity
to decide what they would like to do about it, if anything.

I cannot understand why you would wish to berate me
for merely providing the information about it.  My computer
does not crash, nor does my awareness that retaliation might
be a consequence when communicating with the sort of people
who send unsolicited email messages with unethical schemes
and traps in them.  My preference to remain as anonymous
as possible to notify them and interested parties at FreeBSD,
will, I hope, be viewed by objective and thoughtful
individuals as reasonable and not unethical in any way.
The statements I have made can be independently verified
and I have no wish to convince anyone to send me money
or to do anything at all except consider what is in their own
best interests.

There is no need to reply to me.  If you like, have a look
at www.owlsnest.com, try to send an email using the
mailto link on the page, or if you want to risk being
thought to have authorized them to perform fee-based 
services for you, send them an email at
owlseye@owlsnest.com.  If you think others who
receive their umail might unfairly associate them with
FreeBSD, then you can contact the developers or
distributors of FreeBSD, if you like.  My contribution
time now has been expended.

Thanks,

CBT



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