Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:34:46 -0500 (EST) From: Tim Vanderhoek <ac199@hwcn.org> To: John Kelly <jak@cetlink.net> Cc: Mikael Karpberg <karpen@ocean.campus.luth.se>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Donations. Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980305180734.908B-100000@localhost> In-Reply-To: <34feb36e.6586660@mail.cetlink.net>
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On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, John Kelly wrote:
> Very good suggestions. But I don't have enough history with the
> project or relationship with core team members to pull it off.
> Someone else who has the experience, knowledge, and trust of core
> needs to step forward. Otherwise there would just be a split, and
You [John Kelly] seem to believe that there are hordes of people
ready and willing to donate to FreeBSD sitting around just
waiting for FreeBSD Inc. to request their money. I suggest,
quite strongly, that 90% of the people who would donate any money
can be found reading the FreeBSD newsgroups and mailing lists.
There is absolutely no reason you cannot secure just as much
money as jkh could. A well-worded announcement to -chat and to
news, along with some carefully dropped suggestions in otherwise
on-topic messages in -current, -hackers, -etc. would corral most
of the money available. The money does not need to be sent to
you, the goal is only to get a commitment from the donators.
Once sufficient funds to accomplish one of these massive projects
are accumulated, send it all in to jkh, and I'm sure he or
someone else will have it spent on said massive project.
Unfortunately, however, I completely believe that you will fail
(as FreeBSD Inc. would fail) to guarantee anywhere near the sort
of funding necessary to make such a project feasible. The
usermass simply _does not_ exist to make any votes meaningful.
If it did, Linux would have had it a long time ago! (Read that
again, please. Thanks.)
Really, I don't understand why giving money away is so
complicated. Does it really take nearly a hundred messages just
to figure-out how to write a cheque, address it, and stamp it?
Are we so incredibly dumb as to need kilobytes of text
instructing us how to do it!? I thought we were brilliant
computer scientists (speaking of which, I fared ok in a recent
national competition, thanks FreeBSD & GNU :) --- this is really
not befitting.
I've been reading message after message, hoping for some good
insults and entertainment, in the classic ancient Roman style,
and have been sorely disappointed. Perhaps my sense of
entertainment is highly distorted and I just really need to get
laid (what does this say of the primary participants, then?!),
but please, folks, let's add some real content to these messages.
Names! Catcalls! Evil wife-beating insinuations! Anything but
this bland "Voting will get my money" repeated over and over and
over and over.
Civility is no substitute for content, be that content a
well-reasoned and supported argument ("Doomsday approaches" is
not a well-reasoned and supported argument), or viscous threats
and ad hominem attacks; just something to make it worth reading,
please!
Sic'em Chuckie! Go get 'em! At-a boy Chuckie!
(Man, this is so nauseating...there's not even a single smiley to
be found in here... <sigh>)
[There: I added one! Now two! :-]
--
tIM...HOEk
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