From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Oct 26 2:34:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from jake.akitanet.co.uk (jake.akitanet.co.uk [212.1.130.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C2237B403 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 02:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dsl-212-135-208-201.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([212.135.208.201] helo=wopr.akitanet.co.uk) by jake.akitanet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 15x3Mx-0002zc-00; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:33:39 +0100 Received: from wiggy by wopr.akitanet.co.uk with local (Exim 3.21 #2) id 15x3N7-0006F6-00; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:33:49 +0100 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:33:49 +0100 From: Paul Robinson To: Seth Kingsley Cc: Alan DuBoff , Mitch Collinsworth , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: want advice Message-ID: <20011026103349.E22182@jake.akitanet.co.uk> References: <200110252141.RAA29334@philotas.hosting.pacbell.net> <20011025183318.A5179@fluff.meowfishies.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <20011025183318.A5179@fluff.meowfishies.com>; from sethk@meowfishies.com on Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 06:33:18PM -0700 X-Scanner: exiscan *15x3Mx-0002zc-00*$AK$DMek3QnCmEcISkIemNsGM1* Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Oct 26, Seth Kingsley wrote: > [Moved to -chat] You know, I just love it when people move their flamewars onto -chat. Of course, that's what it's here for. Not for like, you know, off-topic discussion. No, it's here to humiliate others in public. Terrific! :-) =20 > One of the things that I most admire about Open-Source developers, > especially those involved with the FreeBSD project, is humility. You > seem to be lacking in this quality, in addition to tactfulness. So > basically what you're trying to prove is that you're uncommunicative and > don't work well in groups? I have to say, you're not showing yourself to be particularly tactful either. As for FreeBSD-geeks being full of humility, well... I'd say the majority I've met were full of pies and dope (i.e. fat and stoned). Therefore, perhaps they're just dozy (after eating all the pies), and a bit stoned. Is that *really* humility? Aren't steretypes GREAT!? When you can't win an argument through any other means, just show that the person you're arguing with doesn't fit into your stereotypical view of the community they consider themselves to be a part of, thereby 'excluding' them. Nice work. =20 > Now you're attacking the respondent based purely on his email address? About as justifiable as choosing not to employ somebody or deem somebody unemployable based on the content of a few e-mails. > And when did this become a personal advertisement? You seem to be on a > personal crusade to prove that your experience and conviction outweigh > having no credientials; this is a noble cause, but you're going about it > in completely the wrong way. That may very well be the case, but I don't see how your response will help him become more communicative, or indeed employable. Perhaps some constructive commentary would have been a little more helpful. At this point, I would say that you as somebody who is prepared to lambast, bring others needlessly into the argument (moving it to -chat), and being generally obnoxious and as a result would be completely and wholly unemployable by any organisation I was part of. Not nice when people make judgements like that about you based on a few hundred words is it? I suggest that this discussion goes on off-list as it is no doubt about to turn into one hell of a flamefest. You're all gagging for an argument, but with all of the debate on here in recent weeks, I'm all argued out. :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message