From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 20 04:30:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD4A16A421 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 04:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from cayster.site5.com (cayster.multisite.site5.com [216.118.97.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D113E43D46 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 04:30:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from ppp110-20.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net ([150.101.110.20] helo=[192.168.0.4]) by cayster.site5.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1FhJ6f-0000PK-S7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 20 May 2006 00:30:38 -0400 Message-ID: <446E9B59.4030102@webanoide.org> Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 14:30:17 +1000 From: Mikhail Goriachev Organization: Webanoide User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Macintosh/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <446DF046.2060401@webanoide.org> <20060519182628.GA96467@gothmog.pc> <446E16C2.4050908@webanoide.org> <20060519195028.GA97139@gothmog.pc> <20060519195726.GB97139@gothmog.pc> In-Reply-To: <20060519195726.GB97139@gothmog.pc> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: This message has been scanned by ClamAV. X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cayster.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - webanoide.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: :::. Sendmail on FreeBSD -> Deferred: Operation timed out with X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 04:30:49 -0000 Giorgos, Kevin, thanks a lot for your input. Finally this madness is getting some explanation. I was getting a few beers short of a carton on this one. hospitaldeninos.cl has got some config issues: http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hospitaldeninos.cl The thing about this whole situation is that my ISP's SMTP can send e-mails to that domain. So I assumed I was doing something wrong with my FreeBSD box, hence the persistence on my behalf. Now I realise that OSes behave differently putting them in the same situation. For instance FreeBSD completely rejects everything. It doesn't want to do anything with such domains. Understandable, fair enough. OpenBSD won't telnet to any of the MXs but will send e-mails happily with no problems at all. On the other hand Mac OS X (Darwin) will telnet to the first MX. It doesn't throw "non-recoverable failure in name resolution" error. So it's even more flexible. I guess everything comes down to OSes and their mailers. How inconvenient. Anyway, I'm gonna send a few e-mails to technical contacts for hospitaldeninos.cl and let them know about this issue. Thanks again guys. Cheers, Mikhail. -- Mikhail Goriachev Webanoide Telephone: +61 (0)3 62252501 Mobile Phone: +61 (0)4 38255158 E-Mail: mikhailg@webanoide.org Web: http://www.webanoide.org PGP Key ID: 0x4E148A3B PGP Key Fingerprint: D96B 7C14 79A5 8824 B99D 9562 F50E 2F5D 4E14 8A3B