From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 21:31:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59F6F38F for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:31:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm19-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 203A67A6 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:31:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1424208516; bh=JyHAdq2/HxD0xejwjfNoXZ6r7n/Oqi3dVQqOgEBjdZc=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=DcaBM1Aq6FEoxWlK4iSd20OPBHdDAuKnF23zd89/MqF2UaGleiui4tq606NAxR4yfO9YkR/KR7y+v0XAYKQH1o92arku9GAcjAgNbqFC8J1AMOW4EtCF95E2yJ1YHzgJzm4wttvzc+s2mPZpvNprGgRnNb/r3O77MymbsCtxmf2cFAY5H4Qmf/832I9oexmIPIauKfr3wJ55uD/ObGG0nKPrtYVECn/ohueqh5F5on/fXe7N6DxcpHaz6K2MJ2RK66SD4P7wLrCIl/BLL/NVMb46FHywlArMzMod1pQ+DWoWiobfZZYggqTE28juYzkXsElyrFJLPHzR5Q5I921Y4Q== Received: from [98.137.12.175] by nm19.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2015 21:28:36 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.68] by tm14.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2015 21:28:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp105.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2015 21:28:35 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 733287.91325.bm@smtp105.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: cywboAgVM1k.APu6eJoql_BoCpp4Mx05LFiBl5o48zFOa3V _LW6bMdLnmuRD_7t_4Eh1x2J1ugU8a_sNQXb1canTbkzuH62YHBobY.dJ9o7 EqwEWkceOSaSb7a.ylYATZtovAJNnpUMKDxK9dxughVzKIaejDP._FI1Lcln e1j3xy750QfyrenSKZF0v4GpHHT8H6wJdRVvMkyk3GtXKJ1p1vWpC6Ye_Ro8 RzvaPqETHDTOdCsoCeBCkz7NHwzMahUK0UxN_d7Qh5i3OzjW3zV1CxivUST6 dkuBZA.UZ0Re0UygvE5dSjUGgk4GxSJZqRaG5a591jqWRL7f9YJyPT0NZKVI M.MVBlIwu1Y3n8y_TXoI7VEkevNOKnVZiMqZcwEYeja8G2ua43pMsyrGSNBJ AeUGAV8lyXEdYY1qpmP6q.3lkr8wk.pdTJ9srkeZKn5fVyq8L267hT6bh3fu 8_iTEDvVar58herLMNKWNZrm6AAr5XLg_fQfsaDCK9xwTU22d3CKjaK8aPAO jPUiFeAZWzVrYm.z9s5QVtqXW4sgjOJjpfMXCY.5jAG_MQXBgnIVFO4MljlD oChIjJ50c525mHCyGfNLZ_zu6m2DZTyLWK1bZdKruOypcxnElssYFAAIXCXy 4RuKbD4yswcxGDuKjMWCNb4jS5ptSlEHETfUsY3BnZXReE5wLwJpX33qUq6D fc8Ysg1zVvagMsj6wQbc.G6FsF6Cmeku3CouXeVTpmGIIkrVQILV37iiyGw- - X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 22:27:44 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's in my hard drive? How can I get rid of it? Message-ID: <20150217222744.0a9b1d87@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20150217202411.GA42894@neutralgood.org> References: <54E39F83.70002@gmail.com> <20150217202411.GA42894@neutralgood.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1-66-gd6ba813 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:31:07 -0000 On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:24:11 -0500, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: >http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/ken/trust.html When I was young we cracked copying protections and removed bugs from the broken assembler code of software we pay for. If we wouldn't have cracked the copy protection, it would have damaged our floppy disks (Commodore 1541 bump, with later disks using a light barrier, it was impossible to load the copy protected software, we needed to remove the light barrier and/or crack the copy protection) and if we wouldn't have fixed the bugs, the software wouldn't have worked. That was a note about the "criminal" hackers from my generation and now a note about the "criminal" hackers about the current generation. Guerilla Open Access Manifesto: https://archive.org/stream/GuerillaOpenAccessManifesto/Goamjuly2008_djvu.txt IOW it's an ethical decision. I never read a diary of somebody else, just because I was able to do it. Cracking software we pay for, that doesn't work and/or will damage our hardware, hacking for social commitment are good ethical reasons. Schadenfreude and greed are bad.