From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 00:52:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C08816A401 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2007 00:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C92E13C458 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2007 00:52:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g7so1690948muf for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2007 17:52:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d/FHlfkl145QRQvq+TWkYamuNrw+h0b57VW3dzf2IrXfAJDREFJeV5vB2vfL9/VUBsqu0eLbvoMktVowJUe70vqFxvcwcV3vg9t82diFNf9HQSPA1xYuw6FEPWpgj8gdYPcfSU1WyqLtg0CbH5pgLo0lMfsn83ypyXFGPpuP0L0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eSbTp7bTdbbvRf+EpLZLFbafL+fwDG3xsB2eegg6IzlBGxreuwZqqEY9NVI13alGxnuc9EQjK4CBaKmT4Rsn1P6ZUh9RYjsuKifAArzqD/vmEV+dwS1cT24PhB5Vvy60BXDKth/i8F+JJNPw7mW7AoaOmaQtNSSpLThUvO0BLAQ= Received: by 10.82.188.15 with SMTP id l15mr6202773buf.1175991812104; Sat, 07 Apr 2007 17:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.123.111? ( [84.0.104.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id w7sm17265485mue.2007.04.07.17.23.30; Sat, 07 Apr 2007 17:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4618366C.60200@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 02:25:16 +0200 From: deeptech71@gmail.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: spellberg_robert References: <46180A09.5020003@gmail.com> <46180799.5070400@emailrob.com> In-Reply-To: <46180799.5070400@emailrob.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what can i do with a 486? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 00:52:04 -0000 spellberg_robert wrote: > take out absolutely --everything-- not related to > the hard_drive, the keyboard and the crt, > even though there are other things that are important, > like networking. > if you can't get this to come up, > it may be time for a good scotch and some wistful memories. > > kill the remaining pseudo_devices. > do you need kbdmux in the console ? Problem is: what's that? OK, redunant, removed, period. > ADAPTIVE_GIANT ? PREEMPTION ? INET ? UFS_ACL ? SCSI_DELAY ? > KBD_INSTALL_CDEV ? OK ... I don't know what these (exactly) are, but: # Don't know if removing SCSI_DELAY will save me more than an sizeof( integer ) :) In this case, what about FBSD3.4compat? > you get the idea. > once you get it working, you can always add things back, one at a time. > when it fails, you know your limit. It's true the other way around. When I remove something, it gives a compile time error. These include: 'undefined reference to myfunc()', and something like #error "Huh? ppp without INET?". Maybe removing all at once will stop their cross references. > i do admire your stick_to_it_iveness. > but, remember, new two_year old technology is pretty cheap, > when you can find it. > > can't promise this will work. > hope it helps. HTX yo > rob