From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Apr 28 2:59:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0341514FF8 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 02:58:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA27348; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:04:04 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199904281004.UAA27348@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: Adding desktop support In-Reply-To: <199904280938.JAA12007@excalibur.oceanis.net> from Emmanuel DELOGET at "Apr 28, 1999 11:38:52 am" To: pixel@DotCom.FR (Emmanuel DELOGET) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:04:04 +1000 (EST) Cc: thallgren@yahoo.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Emmanuel DELOGET wrote: > Of course. But I speak about the new wave of WMs. Those things, named > E, Window Maker and so on, have some desktop functionnalities that are > incorporated with the wm (such as icon-based quick app launcher and so > on - could you say me that a qal is a needed part of a wm ?). > > Plus : they (the wms) have a bunch of config file that any application > could read (such as the themes files, or, more easily (for example in > Window Maker), the iconsets files). If someone copies a file to some arbitrary directory or creates a link to an existing file, all those configuration files are out-of-date. I can't image how non-hacker-type users could manage that sort of configuration complexity. Did you look at the demo application I referred to in my original mail? Try it! Then see if you can come up with a window-manager based implementation that provides the same level of functionality and performance. > > So I really think that it is better to hack the wm - or, if you > prefer, to create gnome/whatever proggies to handle this - than to > hack the fbsd kernel. The FreeBSD kernel is not affected. I'm not proposing to specify what the desktop looks like, just the information that is made available to the desktop programs. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message