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Date:      Tue, 13 May 2008 05:53:12 -0500
From:      eculp <eculp@encontacto.net>
To:        Rainer Duffner <rainer@ultra-secure.de>
Cc:        freebsd-mobile <freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: I would appreciate an opinion from someone with internal network wireless voice and data experience
Message-ID:  <20080513055312.109759abuxovntc8@intranet.encontacto.net>
In-Reply-To: <AC17C891-F61F-4D4B-B9AA-2E14D376D8DB@ultra-secure.de>
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Hi, Rainer.

Quoting Rainer Duffner <rainer@ultra-secure.de>:

>
> Am 12.05.2008 um 17:39 schrieb eculp:
>
>>
>
> [...wireless office...]
>
>>
>> I'm asking this because this is the first time I have seen anyone =20
>> trying to do a 100% wireless office and the idea is cool but only =20
>> if it works;)
>
>
> Indeed. I'm no expert in wireless stuff either, but I know a couple =20
> of things for sure:
>  - it's a shared medium. Like original ethernet. So, bandwidth is =20
> limited, unlike in a switched ethernet, where it depends mostly on =20
> the backplane-bandwidth of the switch

That is the base of the problem.

>  - whatever you do with your APs/Repeaters - they all share the same =20
> spectrum (shared medium, see above)
>
> Who sold them on this "wireless everything stuff"?
> I hope it wasn't you ;-)

No just the opposite, they asked my opinion because of the difficulty =20
and cost of wiring the antique building and I told them - NO - in no =20
uncertain terms.  The contractor and his technical sub-contractor sold =20
them a dream.  Dreams are soooo much easier to sell than reality;)  =20
Plus I told them that if they did it to be sure that the contract =20
contain basically a satisfaction guaranteed or money back clause and =20
they were romanced out of that also.


>> More general information:
>>
>> The individual workstations will be running freebsd or maybe one of =20
>> the pc versions.  I haven't tried them.  Initially there will be =20
>> about 25 of them so they could be used as repeaters, I guess.
>>
>> The reason for the type of construction and the disregard for FCC =20
>> on output is that I'm not in the US.
>>
>> The telephone equipment is linksys SPA941 that I don't find in =20
>> there page anymore.  Maybe it was discontinued for technical =20
>> reasons.  Haven't checked that yet.
>>
>> If this doesn't work the solution is to wire all that is not that =20
>> easy or inexpensive now the the remodeling is completed.

> Indeed.
> But wireless is not meant to shuffle around big amounts of data. At =20
> least, last time I looked. Maybe it has changed with Draft-N - but =20
> there are no drivers (yet) for Draft-N in FreeBSD anyway, and it's =20
> still a shared-medium.
> Back when we had 10BaseT, files were also much smaller, nobody was =20
> sending around 20 MB PPT presentations and downloading a DVD ISO in =20
> 3 hours would have been an out-of-body experience.

Rainer, thanks again for your common sense look at the problem.  Since =20
I am basically forcing them to wire at probably double the original =20
cost, I, like your mentioning, "the last time I looked", want to be =20
sure that I'm not missing something that has changed.

ed




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