From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 7 22:41:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78711065679 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 22:41:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82688FC14 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 2010 22:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-101-204.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.101.204] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PFDmC-00088E-GA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2010 14:31:53 -0800 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 07 Nov 2010 14:41:09 -0800 Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 14:41:09 -0800 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101107224109.GB2204@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20101106190934.GB67566@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20101106200239.00004b64@unknown> <20101106203213.GC13095@guilt.hydra> <20101106225446.GC67566@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20101107101750.00006bd2@unknown> <20101107174106.GB77433@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20101107185845.66745df2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20101107205122.GE17565@guilt.hydra> <20101107220729.000048f6@unknown> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101107220729.000048f6@unknown> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 22:41:15 -0000 --TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Bruce Cran on Sunday, 07 November 2010: > On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 13:51:22 -0700 > Chad Perrin wrote: >=20 > > I choose a little up-front learning curve for massive efficiency and > > productivity enhancements down the road. The increased efficiency of > > a minimal, composable toolset driven by the keyboard can be a huge > > win in long-term productivity for one motivated to learn how to use > > it, as well as a major savings on system resources (and hardware > > costs, since upgrades do not need to happen as often, nor be as > > cutting-edge). > >=20 > > Others choose some inefficiency in the long run to avoid having to > > learn anything new up front. The increased discoverability, at least > > for simple tasks, of a point-and-click interface tends to seem more > > "intuitive" and familiar to people just coming to a new system for the > > first time, makes task completion easier to figure out the first time > > (and the thirtieth, since point-and-click interfaces tend to require > > figuring out the same tasks over and over again). >=20 > With the command-line you also choose the inefficiency of having to > read the man page every time you want to do something you're not > familiar with. Well-designed UIs allow you to easily discover how to do > it without resorting to the Help file - and since people tend to have > good visual memories they can remember it better than a string of > characters. A good example of this is Subversion tagging/branching: in > Windows I can use the menu option "TortoiseSVN -> branch/tag..." to > create a branch and have it done in a minute. Using the command-line > I'd have to spend time reading up on the commandline parameters to > achieve the same thing, since it's something I only do about once a > year or so. >=20 > --=20 > Bruce Cran Up to a point, yes. But as options become more complex, either the GUI must also become more complex or you reach the tipping point where the complexity warrants the use of language instead of gestures. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM1ysDAAoJEIpckszW26+RpX0IAMFcTN3HvzlR/qf0ggJj5qmb KuY6xVSLpvRHES2TL1DFV+3tjQlcmp6BuzBKOjm79e8t2OJ2JsFwwh4aiI9tP3aO R8U61xC3x4pluW29UNFupqSfhCAwFn8N5FN4OBM5VMuNDkT2xg/gtgC6pHKkyaTo Ydg6dawjco1iegFMZMEPjNSrkJgKrSYa4dislMreFbvOv0TCzsVE8OFlgPXxLXOE nxJWwzeGyVBxSBtzN/8jmSYRW1ldkkRCNFm8fS18Ewwg1r9cdVYy4KhAwHbvmxm7 fa9X7oPoDNLqvUuhN1X58gNKz8KPHnxb4xLX0LmWeaSi073vJ0xWqMHs5jtQLD4= =x2HK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc--