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Date:      Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:54:10 +-300
From:      Arabian <Arabian@DAL.NET>
To:        "'Bruce A. Mah'" <bmah@CA.Sandia.GOV>
Cc:        "'Arabian'" <Arabian@DAL.NET>, "'bmah@california.sandia.gov'" <bmah@california.sandia.gov>, "'net@FreeBSD.ORG'" <net@FreeBSD.ORG>
Message-ID:  <01BEAEA2.85CEA540@ddeh.qatar.net.qa>

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Bruce wrote:
If memory serves me right, Arabian wrote:=20
>> My server on ISP powered by FreeBSD also my own server is P II 333 =
with 128  MB SDRAM my NIC is >>IntelEtherExpress Pro 10/100B Ethernet =
FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE, the router where my server connected to on the ISP =
is also >>P II  333 powered by FreeBSD.  Could that router being problem =
and causing any latency for my server and I should ask >>them to connect =
it to the Core directly ?=20

>I'll try to answer this, but I have to admit that I'm not completely =
understanding the situation. I think you have a server of some >sort =
running FreeBSD. It sounds like it's collocated at your ISP, and you =
have another FreeBSD machine acting as a router >between your server and =
some subnet that's run by the ISP.=20

_Very_ true, this what I'm having now. That machine acting like router =
between my server and the ISP DS3s backbones and as firewall to proect =
the server connected to it from attacks ICMPs ...etc. :)

>You want to know if having that router in the middle is adding =
excessive latency, and if the server should consequently be >attached =
directly to the ISP's subnet. Is that right?=20

Right.

>Without some more details, it's difficult to answer your question. For =
example, what kind of services are you providing?=20

I'm runing IRC server.

>Where are the clients?

IRC users.

>Are the networks 10Mbps or 100Mbps?

100 Mpbs Full Duplex.

>Is the router doing anything other than routing packets?

Just routing packets, and as firewall to proect the server connected to =
it from attacks ICMPs ...etc.

What other hosts are the networks on each side of your router?=20

I'm not sure Iunderstand this.

>Why is the router there in the first place?=20

They are using software to control the bandwidth usage this is the =
reason, my server has dedicated10 Mbps.

>The big questions: Do you think you are actually experiencing any =
performance problems, and if so, could you quantify this? If I =
>understand your environment correctly, I think that having the router =
in between shouldn't be a problem at all for you. For sake >of argument, =
if your server is serving Web pages to random clients on the Internet, =
it's a fair guess that there's going to be a lot >more latency between =
the clients and your ISP than there's going to be through your router. =
(For something to try, login to your >server and ping random hosts on =
the Internet, observing the round-trip time statistics. Then login to =
your router and do the same. >Compare the round-trip times in both =
cases.)=20

There is no performance problem actually, I just wanted to make sure I =
wont have it on the future, avoiding the problem before it happenes =
better than solving it after problems jumped. :)

> What is the different between half and full duplex lans ? In the =
context of full-duplex vs. half-duplex 10baseT or 100baseTX >Ethernet: =
In half-duplex, only one system on a cable can be transmitting a packet =
at a time. In the common case of a host >attached to a hub, this means =
that the host can only either be transmitting a packet or receiving a =
packet but not both. This >situation is analogous to the original thick =
and thin Ethernets, which were long coaxial cables. Access to transmit =
on the cables >was (is) shared between all the attached hosts. An =
important part of the Ethernet standard is the algorithm by which hosts =
>contend for access to this shared network. With Ethernet switches, you =
have the option of full-duplex Ethernet transmission. This >basically =
means that a host can be both transmitting a packet and receiving a =
packet on the cable at the same time.=20

Great information they changed it to _Full_ Duplex now, per my request.

>Hope this helps...=20

Well, actually you gave me alot of information, very useful, and you are =
big help. *smile*

Waiting to hear from you again, thanks alot for your time. :)

>Bruce.=20

Sincerly,

-Arabian aka Abullah


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