From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 6 0:19: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F47D37B401 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 00:19:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 15029 invoked by uid 100); 6 Aug 2001 07:19:03 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15214.17639.282563.274423@guru.mired.org> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 02:19:03 -0500 To: Jon Loeliger Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A Rock and Slow Place In-Reply-To: <109605505@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jon Loeliger types: > Hi folks, > > In the eternal quest to keep up to date with everything, > I recently found myself compiling new web browser software. Personally I like w3m. It has the ability to follow a link in another browser, which I find incredibly useful. > So I decided to experiment with Mozilla. Oh my god is it slow! > I've got a P-200 here, and that's just flat not usable. > Did I miss something? No, you haven't missed anything, and have correctly identified mozilla as a pig. Remember that it's competing with IE. There are at least two browsers in the ports tree that use the mozilla rendering engine and provide their own UI. I use Skipstone, and it doesn't have that "wading through molasses" feel that mozilla has. Galeon has also been mentioned, but it uses the gnome libraries - even though the dependency is missing from the port - which I'd rather not install just to build a browser. > In the meantime, I re-pondered Netscape 4. The current port, 4.76 > > www 429 # cd /usr/ports/www/netscape47-communicator > www 430 # make > ===> netscape-communicator-4.76 is marked as broken: has a serious > security hole, use 4.77 instead. > But it's not in the port tree that I can find... > Did I double miss something? Nope, you're right again. Netscape has not released a BSD version of 4.77, so it's not in the ports, so you have to install the linux version. You can cut down on the bloat by using linux-netscape47-navigator, but you'll still have to install the emulator. If you don't want the emulator, you might consider using galeon or skipstone for most things, and using the BSD version of 4.76 - install it by removing the BROKEN line from the Makefile - only for things that are broken in those two browsers, and only briefly. > Anyone? Bueller? So what's the fifty dollar followup question? http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message