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Date:      Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:21:57 -0500
From:      Mark Felder <feld@feld.me>
To:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Walter Hurry <walterhurry@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available...
Message-ID:  <op.wjjrevvd34t2sn@tech304>
In-Reply-To: <20120824051809.GP33100@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>
References:  <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <k15po0$kj3$1@ger.gmane.org> <op.wjimnzxz34t2sn@me-pc> <20120824051809.GP33100@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>

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On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 00:18:09 -0500, Konstantin Belousov  
<kostikbel@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is a statement that is false at least two times, if not three.
> This was a question about Kernel Binary Inteface, not Application
> Binary Interface.

I actually did mean to say KBI instead of ABI :-/

> First, we have zero guarantees about ability to load or have a system
> survive loading of the module compiled against the later kernel.
> Second, we do not have real KBI definition, and KBI stability is managed
> only ad-hock. E.g. VFS quite often breaks, while network or disk  
> controllers
> drivers are usually fine.

I'll have to search my email but I had a conversation with someone whom I  
trusted (I believe within the FBSD project) that either mislead me or I  
misread what they were saying. Either way, thank you for the clarification.

> YMMV. Snobby false statements hurt the project.

There was nothing snobby about it; I was merely using Linux as a point of  
reference since most *nix users should have experience with Linux  
rejecting kernel modules that weren't compiled against that exact kernel.  
I could very well have said Plan9 instead but it would be meaningless  
because nobody actually runs Plan9. :-)


Thanks again Konstantin :-)



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