From owner-freebsd-java Sat Dec 1 17:50:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from gnuppy.monkey.org (cx739861-a.dt1.sdca.home.com [24.5.164.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08ADC37B419 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 17:50:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from billh by gnuppy.monkey.org with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 16ALmJ-0004yF-00; Sat, 01 Dec 2001 17:50:47 -0800 Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 17:50:47 -0800 To: Bill Huey Cc: Greg Lewis , Joe Kelsey , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Plugin Status Message-ID: <20011201175047.A18259@gnuppy> References: <15367.52862.957201.411578@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> <20011130141837.A6065@gnuppy> <20011202014615.A36600@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <20011201163642.A12922@gnuppy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011201163642.A12922@gnuppy> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i From: Bill Huey Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Dec 01, 2001 at 04:36:42PM -0800, Bill Huey wrote: > It's something that can't be taking from me regardless of various doubts > they might have and now I can tell them to pretty much "shove it" with > confidence. ;-) I have to reply to this portion of the post again to clarify. The "they" component are the folks that talked down to me because they were too ego driven to recogize competent developers outside of their little cliche. The BSD/OS group has *never* treated me with this kind of disrespect in any way, but instead: 1) Payed me well. 2) Treated me like family 3) Understood where I was coming from (a bit nervous) and professionally managed me in that context. 4) Gave me my first real professional break in my life. That's is very important to me personally since stupid folks in this of the State would say inane crap like "Well, we can't give you a position because I'm intimidated by you and need to make by excuse by saying that 'You don't have enought C++ programming experience for the job'". 5) Feed me, drove me around in Minnesota. Payed for BSDCon which ended up being a great trip to meet those folks, joke around and check out Monterey California. 6) Allowed me to do something as cool as letting my work be integrated into the FreeBSD Java project, therefore helping both groups achieve both goals and establishing myself in both group simultaneously. 7) And other things that mature folks respect and find important without excessive and ridiculous arguing against it. ;-) bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message