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To: Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
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Subject: Re: IPFW almost works now. 
In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:44:02 EDT."
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In message <200106122044.QAA93356@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>, Garrett 
Wollman write
s:
> <<On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:27:49 -0400, Jamie Norwood <mistwolf@mushhaven.net> 
> said:
> 
> > No, it has a host of limitations all it's own, not the least of which is 
> > that is is actually less efficient at transfering files, 
> 
> Balderdash!  HTTP and TCP both send files over identical TCP
> connections, which makes them equally efficient.  There really is no
> reason for FTP to continue to exist (but yet it does).

On virtually every mailing list I'm on I've been advocating the 
deprecation of FTP, only to get flamed by advocates of FTP.  The reason 
FTP is still used is because people want to use it.  Until the majority 
can be educated (convinced) it will continue to be used.  Code (CGI 
scripts, etc.) to perform uploads would be the start of the demise of 
FTP.


Regards,                         Phone:  (250)387-8437
Cy Schubert                        Fax:  (250)387-5766
Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team   Internet:  Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca
Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA
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