From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 31 13:18:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66BDD37B401 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:18:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from spitfire.velocet.net (spitfire.velocet.net [216.138.223.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2B143F85 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:18:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@passedpawn.com) Received: from wenk (H204.C233.tor.velocet.net [216.138.233.204]) by spitfire.velocet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DEB364B7F6C; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:18:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000201c2f7e5$0f55d510$b300a8c0@wenk> From: "Jeff Shevlen" To: "CARTER Anthony" , References: <0HCJ00245JHP9E@net.WAU.NL> <200303311014.21250.a.carter@intrasoft.lu> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:25:13 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Subject: Re: OT Humble Pie (was hardw words) X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:18:43 -0000 In my humble opinion this thread has been nothing but noise for about a week. Some joker (a.k.a. Lal Manavado) has been giving his thesarus a workout and that's about it. If you have nothing constructive to say, don't broadcast it. Otherwise I'm with Anthony - join the docs project and do something about it. Say it don't spray it. Let's propose a merciful end to this thread. ----- Original Message ----- From: "CARTER Anthony" To: Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:14 AM Subject: Re: OT Humble Pie (was hardw words) > IMHO (In My Humble Opinion), if anyone has any gripes with the language in the > documentation for freebsd, instead of complaining to FreeBSD mailing lists, > they should get involved with the documentation projects and write an > "understandable" version. I don't mind people complaining about things, but > instead of just complaining, suggesting changes would be more useful and, I > guess, very welcomed. > > So, next time you find a complicated man page or technical article, find out > the answer by asking questions on mailing lists etc., figure out what it > means, and then re-write the documentation in a way that you would find > useful for others in your situation. Then submit it for approval and basta, > everyone profits. In the end, with everyone doing just a little, the > documentation could be vastly improved for non-technical people. > > Anthony Carter > > > > On Sunday 30 March 2003 05:35, Frans-Jan v. Steenbeek wrote: > > Maybe some Norwegian members of the list can speak English on a high level, > > maybe even higher than "native" english-speakers, but some Dutchmen on the > > list (at least one of them, namely me) cannot follow everything of this > > story. Allthough I did get the major part of it, I wonder why such > > complicated language is needed. I understand the humor behind it, but I'd > > like to say to all of you: SPEAK NORMAL ENGLISH. (no offense :) ) > > > > Sometimes I even find the manuals too complicated. Open-Source-fighters > > should write all their text (especially their manuals) in understandable > > english for the "other part" of the community. That's what came up in my > > mind while reading this. > > > > Speaking of the debate here held: I must agree with mr. Clark. Allthough I > > like the style and attitude of mr. Manavado (sounds like an "ancient" > > behaviour in the Metal-scene) it is clear that no-one should expect from a > > non-native english-speaking newbie in the BSD-community to talk > > "Queens-english". At least I am refusing to do so. > > > > On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Lal Manavado wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 09:37:58 -0800 > > > To: > > > From: "Lal Manavado" > > > Subject: Re: OT Humble Pie (was hardw words) > > > > > > As for English not being the first language of many a user, it only > > > hightens > > > the cogency of our point; namely, a sound knowledge of English would be > > > of > > > considerable help. There is no logical reason why someone whose second or > > > third tongue is English cannot surpass the so-called native speakers, > > > some > > > of whom merely emit sounds, which they fondly believe to be English. > > > > > > Hail to thee! > > > > > > L. M. > > > > May the blessings of our Emperor be with thee to the end of all ages! > > > > Fi-Ji > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >