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Date:      Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:52:25 +1100
From:      Patryk Zadarnowski <patrykz@ilion.eu.org>
To:        Paul Robinson <wigstah@akitanet.co.uk>
Cc:        Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@uunet.co.za>, Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>, Luigi Rizzo <luigi@info.iet.unipi.it>, Arnout Boer <arnout@xs4all.nl>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why not gzip iso images? 
Message-ID:  <200003152352.KAA11010@mycenae.ilion.eu.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:55:14 -0000." <Pine.BSF.4.21.0003151453330.4834-100000@jake.akitanet.co.uk> 

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> On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Sheldon Hearn wrote:
> 
> > And you're forgetting that, as I said in my original reply, people with
> > 56K modems usually benefit from hardware compression over their link
> > anyway.
> 
> But you're defeated by your own argument, as according to you the image
> doesn't compress very well, and I suspect (in fact I know) that hardware
> compression at the modem is not as efficient as gzip -9 ... at best you
> might be able to get that 22Mb we're talking about saving, down to a 10Mb
> saving... you're still leaving the guy with the modem sat there for around
> 45 minutes...

Remember that our modem guy has spent the last 48 hours sitting there
waiting for the download to complete. I'm sure that by now he's fallen
asleep and the 45 minutes will not make a difference anyway. ;)

In most places that are ``affected'' by that 20MB you're trying to
save, bandwidth is so expensive that you'll never going to download
the ISO image anyway. I've just calculated that it would cost me AUD
120 or so, compared to $20 for downloading just the distribution I
need. If I was to download the ISO image over my modem, I'd order a CD
today instead (or enroll at Uni ;)

So I'm supporting uncompressed iso images. 99.99% of those who'd
benefit from the compression would never consider downloading them
anyway, and 99.99% of those who are going to use these images will
find .gz a pain.

Pat.

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