From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Mar 15 15:53:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mycenae.ilion.eu.org (mycenae.ilion.eu.org [203.35.206.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827F437BA73 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:53:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patrykz@ilion.eu.org) Received: from mycenae.ilion.eu.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mycenae.ilion.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11010; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:52:26 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from patrykz@mycenae.ilion.eu.org) Message-Id: <200003152352.KAA11010@mycenae.ilion.eu.org> To: Paul Robinson Cc: Sheldon Hearn , Alfred Perlstein , Luigi Rizzo , Arnout Boer , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why not gzip iso images? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:55:14 -0000." Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:52:25 +1100 From: Patryk Zadarnowski Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > And you're forgetting that, as I said in my original reply, people with > > 56K modems usually benefit from hardware compression over their link > > anyway. > > But you're defeated by your own argument, as according to you the image > doesn't compress very well, and I suspect (in fact I know) that hardware > compression at the modem is not as efficient as gzip -9 ... at best you > might be able to get that 22Mb we're talking about saving, down to a 10Mb > saving... you're still leaving the guy with the modem sat there for around > 45 minutes... Remember that our modem guy has spent the last 48 hours sitting there waiting for the download to complete. I'm sure that by now he's fallen asleep and the 45 minutes will not make a difference anyway. ;) In most places that are ``affected'' by that 20MB you're trying to save, bandwidth is so expensive that you'll never going to download the ISO image anyway. I've just calculated that it would cost me AUD 120 or so, compared to $20 for downloading just the distribution I need. If I was to download the ISO image over my modem, I'd order a CD today instead (or enroll at Uni ;) So I'm supporting uncompressed iso images. 99.99% of those who'd benefit from the compression would never consider downloading them anyway, and 99.99% of those who are going to use these images will find .gz a pain. Pat. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Patryk Zadarnowski University of New South Wales School of Computer Science and Engineering -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message