From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 13 11:30:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from green.homeunix.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FBC16A4CE; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (green@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.homeunix.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3DIUSXE081064; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:30:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from green@green.homeunix.org) Message-Id: <200404131830.i3DIUSXE081064@green.homeunix.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Garance A Drosihn In-Reply-To: Message from Garance A Drosihn From: "Brian F. Feldman" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:30:28 -0400 Sender: green@green.homeunix.org cc: "Brian F. Feldman" cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second "RFC" on pkg-data idea for ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 18:30:30 -0000 Garance A Drosihn wrote: > >This is a very slippery slope. I don't think ports should be > >an XML package definition -- that's just not the BSD way. > > Well, I am guessing this might be taken as a "NO" vote... :-) It's not that it's a "NO" vote per se -- I think it should be done all the way if it is to be undertaken. > >There are distinct advantages to separating content in > >different files: .... This does not mean that I believe > >the proposal to be a bad idea: I think it is a good idea > >as a separate "source package" tree generated from the > >"ports" tree. > > I would also say that I don't understand this comment. If > "the real" ports tree is not going to use the pkg-data ideas, > then why bother generating a second copy of the ports tree? > That just gives us more work to do, with zero benefits > ("zero benefits" because everyone will still be using > "the real" ports tree). Who is going to benefit from the pkg-data tree, though? It has to be EVERYONE for it to be worth it, in my opinion, and I don't think everyone will benefit unless it is significantly more designed than the current proposal. Is the real benefit supposed to be that the tree takes less disk space, or is it that things are more easily "packaged" (read: better?) I don't think the former is a problem that needs to be solved, so I want to know what the latter is going to be. -- Brian Fundakowski Feldman \'[ FreeBSD ]''''''''''\ <> green@FreeBSD.org \ The Power to Serve! \ Opinions expressed are my own. \,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,\