From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Apr 17 16:21:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pyyhe.saunalahti.fi (mail.sci.fi [195.74.0.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468EA37B869 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:21:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juksi@iname.com) Received: from sjukebox (MCMXXXII.dyn.saunalahti.fi [195.197.29.132]) by pyyhe.saunalahti.fi (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA08419; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 02:33:21 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <020901bfa8c0$61498aa0$847e03cb@ROADRUNNER> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 02:21:13 +0300 (EEST) From: Jukka Simila To: Doug Young Subject: Re: newbies Cc: m l mack , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, Gail Pickett Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 17-Apr-00 Doug Young wrote: [snip] > people already familiar with some breed of unix .... manpages are generally > useless > ..... eg WTF are those lines of rubbish at the start for ??, and they > rarely if ever > provide ALL the info one needs I've found manpages very good source: I just use the search function very often, so I don't need to read all the stuff there is. [snip] > Printing appears to be another of the unbelievable weirdnesses endemic to > the > unixes ..... I've always believed that ghostscript was the most complicated > way > possible the geeks could devise of doing the job. I agree, I made my printer work as a line printer, and it printed PostScript as well (In fact I like ghostscript) but I neverever made it to print graphics, like gifs and such, not even mentioning in color. > Actually I never use FreeBSD > in GUI mode as I don't like the amateurish KDE I found recently this quite good-looking thingie, xfce. It is very light and doesn't core dump ever. Thou it isn't exactly what I want, I would vote it as a 'default FreeBSD X environment' , if just someone would make a default background and a list of default packages.. > ... I prefer Solaris / CDE > for anything but gateway use, and there is a quite nice printing application > for it (and also for FreeBSD as I recall) available from 'www.cups.org". > I've found the CUPS stuff quite straightforward to configure and its > certainly > light years ahead of that unintelligible ghostscript stuff :) > Well.. you would still need to use ghostscript with xfce.. :| @-`--,--`--- Jukka Simila To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message