From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon May 12 18:39:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA19315 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 18:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19310 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 18:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id LAA12157; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:08:58 +0930 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199705130138.LAA12157@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: if_de.c ???? In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970512153659.00b31ec0@etinc.com> from dennis at "May 12, 97 03:37:02 pm" To: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:08:58 +0930 (CST) Cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk dennis stands accused of saying: > > You may not *think* so, but remember if no major manufacture builds > initially with the chip, then there is no market for the clones, or > the chip. The chip manufacturers are going to get pressure from the > big guys to not make the specs public...although no one really gives > a hoot about unix....Windows is the real market. Sure. But there is a model for this; 3com. Yes, a lot of people buy their cards, but just at the moment their PCI stuff sucks, and people _aren't_ buying them around here at least. > If SMC or HP says, "We'll buy 5 million ICs if you dont make the > spec public"...its likely to happen. ... only SMC have a reputation for using off-the-shelf parts in datasheet implementations and doing it well (8390x, 21x4x), so it's hard to see them changing tack just now. > db -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[