Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:59:34 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu> To: Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Release Date Challenge, plus other stuff the project needs Message-ID: <20121211185934.GA36887@jerrymc.net> In-Reply-To: <ec18f51e396d76daab520d5a15190f57@foto.nl1.torservers.net> References: <ec18f51e396d76daab520d5a15190f57@foto.nl1.torservers.net>
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On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 01:52:04AM -0500, Anonymous wrote: > We, the users of FreeBSD, *do hereby challenge* the FreeBSD project > to meet its future release dates. OK. Get busy. You have a lot of work to do. Have you ever created or maintained a large project using volunteer help? Get serious and think what you are talking about before making such comments. Release dates are estimates. Would it help your sensitive situation to call them release estimates rather than release dates? ////jerry > > Why: Because the FreeBSD project has not met a significant number > of its release dates. It's an apalling state of affairs and makes > you, the project, look silly. Business and personal users plan > elements of their schedules, budgets and capabilities around OS > updates. And the continual failure of FreeBSD to deliver causes us > to have no alternative but to look at our bosses and just shrug. > We've taken to padding it out a week, two weeks, a month, two > months... just to cover the random slippage. Since there seems to > be no public statements about this ongoing situation, we might as > well pad it to a quarter or a half... FreeBSD's already a half > behind on status reports. > > No one is asking for a commercial dictatorship here. But please > FreeBSD, coordinate better amongst yourselves!!! Be honest about > what is and isn't going to make it. Grow the wiki as your central > coordination center [ie 1] and start moving dynamic docs from www > to there (the community). Replace GNATS (omg, ugh), SVN, and even > MoinMoin so the world can interface with some things that it has > some (good / market leading) experience with [2]. > > Other than that, FreeBSD is great :) > > [1] > http://wiki.freebsd.org/WhatsNew/FreeBSD10 > > [2] > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_issue_tracking_systems > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_help_desk_issue_tracking_software > http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/ > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software_(PHP) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software > http://www.simplemachines.org/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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