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Date:      Thu, 7 Aug 2014 21:07:34 +0200
From:      Tijl Coosemans <tijl@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r364113 - head/ports-mgmt/pkg
Message-ID:  <20140807210734.221966e4@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org>
In-Reply-To: <20140807171815.GV17537@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>
References:  <53e0f0ad.5847.5faaa40c@svn.freebsd.org> <15D20738-E215-4F78-A9CC-5A635D488498@adamw.org> <20140806053647.GL17537@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <7D423316-97A3-44B5-A427-4027EF61FACE@adamw.org> <20140807190501.7ac2db0c@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <20140807171815.GV17537@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>

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On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 19:18:15 +0200 Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 07:05:01PM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 08:50:49 -0400 Adam Weinberger wrote:
>>> On 6 Aug, 2014, at 1:36, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> wrote:=20
>>>> On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 12:46:13AM -0400, Adam Weinberger wrote:
>>>>> On 5 Aug, 2014, at 10:56, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>>>>>> - Directories can be listed in the plist like files they will be
>>>>>> considered like @dirrmtry
>>>>>=20
>>>>> That one is exciting! Do they still need to appear in the same way
>>>>> (i.e. at the end of the plist, in reverse-order)?
>>>>=20
>>>> pkg never had this limitation :)
>>>=20
>>> I am constantly amazed at the tremendous progress that pkgng has
>>> achieved. The problem is, a lot of these improvements aren=E2=80=99t do=
cumented
>>> anywhere, so it=E2=80=99s hard to know what new paradigms we have at our
>>> disposal!
>>>=20
>>> Although I suppose that until pkg_install is fully deprecated (< 1
>>> month now, yay!), it=E2=80=99s best that we not go crazy with incompati=
ble
>>> plist changes.
>>=20
>> We should probably have a discussion in September about what to do
>> with the newly acquired freedom.  For instance, there are way too many
>> tiny files in the ports tree that slow down subversion operations and
>> take up way too much disk space (smallest file size on default FreeBSD
>> install these days is 4KiB).  I think we should move distinfo into the
>> Makefile, combine all pkg-* files into one Pkgfile (using ucl syntax
>> maybe?) and combine patches per feature instead of one patch per file.
>> I'd like to get rid of the files directory too, at least in most cases.
>=20
> That discussion needs to happen now.

I was thinking that maybe we could wait until everybody is back from
vacation.

> I'll collect the idea after my return from vacations :)
>=20
> What I have in mind and is going to happen:
> - remove of @exec

If this means there'll be a lot of tiny pkg-install files then I would
oppose this.  Just to give some stats (default FreeBSD installation):

/usr/ports% du -k -d 0 .
1525248	.
/usr/ports% du -Ak -d 0 .
670241	.

This means that only about 44% of the disk space taken up by a subversion
checkout is actual content.



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