From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Dec 22 17:26:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1B937B401 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 17:26:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bellavista.cz (mail.bellavista.cz [62.168.44.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A87F43EE8 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 17:26:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz (freepuppy.bellavista.cz [10.0.0.10]) by mail.bellavista.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870DF2CA; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 03:22:53 +0100 (CET) Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CC07B2FDC75; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 02:26:27 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 02:26:27 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: "Chris Fox (Excell Data Corporation)" Cc: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk, newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD or Linux? Message-ID: <20021223012627.GC42622@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: "Chris Fox (Excell Data Corporation)" , jfm@blueyonder.co.uk, newbies@freebsd.org References: <0A0B36F65A314D4AB8D2CF1D1FD835F1014058EA@df-muttley.dogfood> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0A0B36F65A314D4AB8D2CF1D1FD835F1014058EA@df-muttley.dogfood> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [fixed quoting] # a-chrisf@exchange.microsoft.com / 2002-12-22 17:11:18 -0800: > -----Original Message----- > From: John Murphy [mailto:jfm@blueyonder.co.uk] > Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 12:56 PM > To: newbies@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: BSD or Linux? > > >Yup. I've never tried a Linux variant myself; sometimes tempted but... > >I've just 'looked at' a friends win2k PC which was _very_ unstable. > >Trying to get some low level access to it was a nightmare, as is trying > >to explain to someone how to do any kind of configuration to a Microsoft > >OS via email "Left click Start..." > > Huh? Windows2000 unstable? I don't think I've ever heard that from > anyone except maybe some kiddie on slashdot. W2K is extremely stable yeah. I actually wanted to say something along that lines. it's [in]definitely more stable than the disaster called Windows XP, from what I've seen. :) > and is more so than most versions of Linux I've used. can't comment on this one. > It's also a lot easier to administer. Anyone who told you to "click" > on something to administer in Windows is someone who probably rides a > bicycle with the training wheels on it. I do Linux, BSD, and Windows > and while I prefer the unices for anything network-related, and while > I don't gloss over Windows' real weaknesses of MS' business practices, > I won't sit back and let this go unremarked: Windows is *way* easier > to administer than any version of UNIX, and that includes RedHat and > Mandrake Linux. in what respect is it easier to administer? > The barriers to entry in Windows are trivial; the barriers to entry in > UNIX are quite high. Try getting anything done in BSD without knowing > some UNIX editor, and try learning that editor with any expectation that > anything else you know helps. It doesn't. It's deliberately > inscrutable and that does not help get more people using UNIX. well, the default editor in FreeBSD is IIRC ee(1), and that's as easy (and as frustrating) as Notepad. -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message