From owner-freebsd-security Sat Feb 9 0:53:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from pogo.caustic.org (caustic.org [64.163.147.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6483937B400 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 00:53:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jan@localhost) by pogo.caustic.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g198rbT51234; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 00:53:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jan@caustic.org) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 00:53:37 -0800 (PST) From: "f.johan.beisser" X-X-Sender: jan@localhost To: Darren Reed Cc: Brett Glass , Subject: Re: Is the technique described in this article do-able with In-Reply-To: <200202090620.RAA19299@caligula.anu.edu.au> Message-ID: <20020208234001.R21734-100000@localhost> X-Ignore: This statement isn't supposed to be read by you X-TO-THE-FBI-CIA-AND-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Darren Reed wrote: > In some mail from Brett Glass, sie said: > > > > http://www.samag.com/documents/s=1824/sam0201d/0201d.htm > > I believe that when you "halt" FreeBSD the whole OS halts. > When you see the "press any key to rebot" message, no more > activity is happening. true.. i don't think any of the BSDs will respond, since the kernel is only waiting for a keystroke to restart. to me this may be less secure than just having the machine fully up and running. > One question though, how do you generate log information? if the OS is still passing packets, you could easily have it set to output all log info to a serial port. this may, or may not, work even in linux. of course, you may not care about log info. > Personally, I think of this as a 'misfeature'. i wouldn't put it that far down, just yet. i don't see how much of an advantage it would be over a fully operational box, on the other hand. -------/ f. johan beisser /--------------------------------------+ http://caustic.org/~jan jan@caustic.org "John Ashcroft is really just the reanimated corpse of J. Edgar Hoover." -- Tim Triche To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message