From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 16 12:59:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA06454 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA06440; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:59:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199607161959.MAA06440@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: mitsumi CD-ROM To: thorpej@nas.nasa.gov Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Cc: dennis@etinc.com, hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607161917.MAA03813@lestat.nas.nasa.gov> from "Jason Thorpe" at Jul 16, 96 12:17:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jason Thorpe wrote: > > It's clear that I'm going to have to justify my comment... One of the big > reasons I think PCs suck is because there's so much hackish hardware for > them. SCSI gear is _not_ that much more expensive, and the benefits of > using SCSI are far greater than the (small) additional cost. PC are available in a *wide* range of quality--from stuff that i would not touch (the headache factor is too great) to machines that outperform sun's new ultra1's handily in integer math (which is at least 90% of your life, even if you crunch numbers for a living, the kernel is all integer, file i/o, network, etc....) talking about a 586-90 here, nothing remarkable on doubles the same PC falls midway between a sparc10 and a sparc20 (numbers are available upon request :) not only is SCSI just a modest cost delta, but SCSI works. IDE is just waiting, wanting, longing to fail ;) > If we're going to perpetuate the use of a really lame (IMHO) architecture > such as the x86, then we might as well try to break the cycle of hanging > hackish hardware off of it. agreed. i hate the f***ing 80x86 architecture. but everytime that someone tries to kill it, intel has managed to squeeze it yet again....i dont know what they will do next. i may not like it, but i have to respect what they have managed to do. jason, you need to get yourself some high-quality PC hardware. jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB