From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 14:32:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E324106564A for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120A08FC1A for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:32:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id o2BEWbes001179 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:32:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david@bunrab.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id o2BEWbPe001178 for hackers@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:32:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:32:37 -0800 From: David Wolfskill To: hackers@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100311143237.GP57205@bunrab.catwhisker.org> References: <1AE2F4B0675743BAB0C54954FBA787CA@multiplay.co.uk> <4B982E57.2050408@gmx.de> <86vdd3kkxx.fsf@ds4.des.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="j/dCmPD2xgTAf6cP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86vdd3kkxx.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Subject: Re: To sendmail or to postfix that is the question? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hackers@freebsd.org List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:32:38 -0000 --j/dCmPD2xgTAf6cP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 03:11:06PM +0100, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > Matthias Andree writes: > > sendmail's configuration was never a black art unless you needed > > features beyond what the m4 macro set supported. >=20 > The m4 macro set is a fairly recent development. I was using it in 1993. With respect, perspectives as to "never" or "recent" tend to be subjective. (Some folks on this list may well have not been born yet in 1993.) FWIW: * The FreeBSD.org mail infrastructure uses Postfix. In general, I find its configuration cleaner & more orthogonal than that of sendmail. * I still use sendmail at home -- partly because there are still things I can do with sendmail that I don't know how to do with Postfix (e.g., taking action based on the lack of a header), partly because I still find sendmail logs easier to parse and undertsand, and partly from inertia. And we have Greg Shapiro shepherding sendmail in the FreeBSD source tree, which is wonderful. * I worked at an installation that had a fair amount of infrastructure built around the use of qmail a few years back. I hope to never repeat that experience, and would not willingly use qmail ever again. * I have no experience with administering other MTAs. Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --j/dCmPD2xgTAf6cP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkuY/wQACgkQmprOCmdXAD3yjQCfW/Q+mmhQSekd/wLtTnhGYogf 9/YAmwSGlm9vwUZcbtn7jJfqYVD+uSil =1dkn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --j/dCmPD2xgTAf6cP--