From owner-freebsd-wireless@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 10:53:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2347E7FD for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 10:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.76.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A55061A12 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 10:53:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F19A76A6008; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 12:53:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s81ArqCY092905; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 12:53:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: (from lars@localhost) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id s81ArokY089306; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 12:53:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 12:53:50 +0200 From: Lars Engels To: "Russell L. Carter" Subject: Re: TL-WN722N support on FreeBSD. Message-ID: <20140901105350.GJ57121@e-new.0x20.net> References: <20140830195721.GA12450@neutralgood.org> <5403AD08.60605@pinyon.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GvznHscUikHnwW2p" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5403AD08.60605@pinyon.org> X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 X-Operation-System: FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE-p4 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussions of 802.11 stack, tools device driver development." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 10:53:59 -0000 --GvznHscUikHnwW2p Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 04:17:28PM -0700, Russell L. Carter wrote: >=20 >=20 > On 08/31/14 00:46, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > On 30 August 2014 12:57, wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:16:04PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: > >>> So yeah. Almost all of the work is done in the atheros driver side of > >>> things. Heck, the AR9271 bits for the HAL are likely just an evenings > >>> worth of work for me. I just don't want to deal with the USB side of > >>> it. > >>> > >>> I'm not being paid to do any of the wireless stuff in FreeBSD, so it > >>> has to clear the "is it fun" threshold. > >> > >> Personally, I don't do wireless. Ever. > >> > >> The real issue you just brought up is that FreeBSD is a volunteer proj= ect, > >> and not a product. The work that gets done is either funded by someone= (by > >> dollar, mostly by businesses) that want something specific, or out of = the > >> kindness of someone's heart. > >> > >> If someone who cared wanted to fund FreeBSD's wireless work then would= you > >> turn down the funding? If you were willing, what's the procedure for > >> someone (not me) to fund the work? > >=20 > > I can't really take that on right now personally, but what I can > > suggest is that you contact the FreeBSD foundation and let them know > > that you'd like to see improved wireless and you're willing to donate > > / fund the work. > >=20 >=20 > Since (new|more) talent in the 80211++ space is evidently needed, > I would suggest trying a bounty. Maybe $5K? That's a lot > of money in many places in the world. (Adrian has done > tremendous work, but what about die bus? It happens to > all of us, eventually.) >=20 > I'm a wired-by-default guy, with a house full of CAT5, but the > future is wireless. >=20 I guess the problem is not the money but finding someone who actually knows what to do. --GvznHscUikHnwW2p Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJUBFA+XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4RjQwMDE3RTRERjUzMTI1N0FGRTUxNDlF NTRDQjM3RDNBMDg5RDZEAAoJEOVMs306CJ1tHCkH/Amc/mEobXLDHCkktOsj9Zdu f1w7rwlX3hE4fNSR2tJySmq+aAyE/GQ627J+3uH4VEhytpKaJyApJic3VnynyKDW 8mlQNCuUPGQTDAY+2iWkrb8Qqy/ZbtUt0SLFP2esuhJruTfnY32S+LfP9BSAJzMs gAXY3s2Am0WLUagzzbVghbU0I72a3g7qCSu4GvZhGLhtFwoskVJJQxqy/+cV+X8/ pllk6PVb1ruAbrGjgaVD6sGXVSQcl5txSsq4EyJtDmj2QEqfWssKJ9Dc9eKFwN6R N1flC+g5VJv+UhqaQWy+DuEao5bXm2rxogeAcPo8KuR7sMgrNjjDwO5aBIzxjrs= =BEI/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GvznHscUikHnwW2p--